Re: [Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] Misleading information in EOMA68 news

On 26.08.2016 01:33, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> Le vendredi 26 août 2016 à 01:26 +0300, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic a écrit :
>> On 25.08.2016 15:47, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote:
>>>
>>> On 25.08.2016 15:25, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This issue of "you said it is 'libre' but I prove it's not", and even
>>>> the issue regarding the older publication on ThinkPenguin's site, can be
>>>> easily solved by changing terms/words accordingly there. There's no need
>>>> to make everyone mad at each other.
>>>
>>> It's not just about terminology. It's about deliberately misinforming
>>> the people to back your project because it's been libre hardware and
>>> libre software "right from the beginning". And also misinforming people
>>> to think it's OK for their freedom to buy laptops with proprietary BIOS
>>> rather than with Libreboot.
>>
>> Richard Stallman has just confirmed me that FSF has not received the PCB
>> design sources along with the Libre Tea Computer Card.
>>
>> I hope that now everyone understands that this EOMA68 board is *not*
>> libre hardware as claimed.
>
> LKCL made it clear already: the EOMA68 circuit board design is not libre
> hardware for now, but may be liberated in the future.
>
> Where (except for the Parabola news we just fixed) did you see anyone claim that
> it's libre hardware?

Yes, I've been explaining this separately in the Trisquel-users forum:

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/re-dev-misleading-information-eoma68-news

Sadly, I couldn't Cc the other lists while posting directly in the forum
and I have posted directly in the forum because it takes some time for a
mail in the Trisquel-users mailing list to be posted automatically in
the forum as well.

The claim that it's "libre hardware" originates, of course, in their
crowdfunding campaign, where they state that "This project has been
extremely unusual in that it has been a Libre Hardware and Software
project right from the beginning. [...] A commitment to being fully
Libre is a critical strategic part of this project."

https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop

Hackerboards article, quoted in the campaign's page:

"The EOMA68-A20 COM and systems are claimed to be scrupulously “libre”
in both hardware and software"
http://hackerboards.com/open-source-com-and-carriers-become-3d-printable-computers/

Liliputing article, quoted in the campaign's page:

"Part of what makes the EOMA68 unusual is that all of the software,
hardware schematics, and even CAD files for the case design are all
available for free."
http://liliputing.com/2016/06/crowdfunding-begins-modular-eoma68-pc-system-laptop-desktop-upgradeable-pc-card.html

Retro-Freedom article, quoted in the campaign's page:

"we need computers that [...] Are based on libre hardware designs. [...]
Why the EOMA68 solves our problems"
http://retro-freedom.nz/blog/2016/06/30/eoma68-my-dream-machine/

Xataka article, quoted in the campaign's page:

"Parte de la gracia que tiene el sistema está en la en que todo lo que
lo rodea es libre y gratuito. Me explico, tanto el software, como los
esquemas de hardware, además de los ficheros CAD, son de libre acceso"
http://www.xataka.com/makers/el-cerebro-de-todos-tus-gadgets-puede-caber-en-una-cartera-eoma68

And other articles quoted in the campaign's page reiterate the same claim.

Additionally, the discussions have been reiterating the same claim:

"Open Source" Hardware Association's mailing list:

http://lists.oshwa.org/pipermail/discuss/2016-August/001865.html

"Open" Manufacturing Group's mailing list:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/openmanufacturing/5Wi1poeK4B4/02CC4uLMAAAJ
(https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/openmanufacturing)

Free Software Foundation community mailing list LibrePlanet-discuss:

Thread #1: EOMA68 - We have to get Free Hardware!

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2016-07/msg00023.html

Thread #2: EOMA68 - libre software, libre hardware, and eco-

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2016-07/msg00002.html

And the list can go on.