When will we have a Trisquel version for tablets and phones?

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Alejandro Hernández
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Beigetreten: 02/11/2016

Hi,

I think we are too slow.

I know already exist 'replicant', but it is only for a couple of phones.

When will we have a Trisquel version for tablets and phones?

thanks ;)

Magic Banana

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Beigetreten: 07/24/2010

Trisquel would not support more phones. The problem with cell phones is that there usually is no free driver for their peripherals. Replicant's developers (such as the impressive paulk) do reverse-engineering. Even with that tough work, none of the supported cell phones has all its peripherals working in an optimal way (e.g., no GPS, no camera, no 3D acceleration, etc.). And, then, there is the software running on the GSM chip. It is never free: Replicant only runs on the main processor.

In the end, any work on top of the kernel would not solve any of the fundamental freedom problems that cell phones raise. Today, the best solution is to not use a cell phone. It is what I do. The seond best solution is Replicant. Ubuntu Touch, Firefox OS, CyanogenMod, ... all include proprietary drivers. That said, I guess it still is better to use those systems without proprietary applications on top (e.g., CyanogenMod without the Google applications and with F-Droid) than the stock ROM.

The needed work to liberate cell phone users is at the driver or even the firmware level: either reverse engineering or advocacy to convince manufacturers to ship free drivers and firmware (or, at least, to publish full specifications).

Mzee
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Beigetreten: 07/10/2013

Well written, MagicBanana. I just wanted to add that Replicant does have (back-)camera support on the Samsung Galaxy S3.

Alejandro Hernández
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Beigetreten: 02/11/2016

You're awesome.

Have tablets a GSM chip too?

Which is the better option to liberate ipads and samung tabs?

Thanks a lot.

Magic Banana

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Beigetreten: 07/24/2010

If the tablet cannot make phone calls, then it should not have a GSM chip. (All?) iPads can be jailbroken. As far as I know, that is the best that can be done with them (i.e., bypass Apple's censorship). Replicant supports a few Android tablets. CyanogenMod supports many but, again, it comes with proprietary drivers/firmware (hardware-wise, tablets basically are large cell phones).

pragmatist

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Beigetreten: 03/03/2016

How do you do the majority of your communication? email? Do you have a land-line phone? Do you borrow other people's (cell)phones? I know rms does all three, with a heavy emphasis on email.

Magic Banana

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Beigetreten: 07/24/2010

E-mails and oral conversations. I have a phone in my office and at home to (rarely) receive calls. I basically never call. I sometimes communicate with my parents (in another continent) using Firefox Hello.

strypey
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Beigetreten: 05/14/2015

Did you know that Firefox Hello depends on a proprietary server controlled by a teleco corporation Mozilla has partnered with? Are you of the opinion (like RMS) that this doesn't matter because the client you are running is free code, and the proprietary software on the server affects its owner's software freedom, but not yours? Just curious.

Magic Banana

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Beigetreten: 07/24/2010

Precisely. And it is not SaSS because it is for communication.

vita_cell
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Beigetreten: 07/19/2015

I am with "LG G3" (this one is better that iPhones and costs half or less), tested cyanogenmod (the best ROM ever made), but back camera doesn't work as good as with the stock ROM. I tested with third party apps, and the same thing. So, I installed stock ROM, and did some deblob myself. Removed everything Google branded, installed F-Droid, X-Privacy, APKtrack, xposed framework (difficult to install). The phone still blobed, but every phone will be blobed.

I had iPhone 5s, and iBad 3 (The "New iPad", I call it "Obsolete iPad"), I jailbroken them, but jailbear as I can see, is useless. Nothing to do with restricted iThings.

Allanitomwesh
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Beigetreten: 10/24/2015

I don't think a new phone software project would be of any benefit. Replicant is already an excellent job at freeing Android,and there are already a lot of free apps on F-Droid. What would be more important is a "Respects Your Freedom" smartphone, that runs Replicant with no blobs. Ideally such a device would need a Mali 400 GPU, which is decent (think galaxy s3) and has been reverse engineered.
But then smartphones present other issues like Privacy vs Convenience (the GPS,Modem,Bluetooth ,WiFi,USB are all privacy and security risks) and just being able to sell such a slow phone (S3 level speed) when current flagships are much faster (but insanely proprietary and privacy invading)