Any libre + uncensored 18+ tubes or forums?

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gd_scania
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As a keen libre desktop user I am highly worried against nonfree 18+ websites, even some are malware themselves, but I have no ideas to libre 18+ tubes and forums, now I have an 18+ gif social channel which is sourced under DuckDuckGo, SearX, YaCy, but both are search engines, but my need is libre and independent 18+ tubes and forums. Any recommendations and experiences to be shared here?

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I've never seen anything of the sort, but most forums work without JavaScript, so whatever you're thinking of should be perfectly fine.

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Not just JavaScript, but their servers are also needed to be libre, of course libre clients and libre webpages are basic of basic.

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On Mon, 2017-12-11 at 03:47 +0100, name at domain wrote:
> Not just JavaScript, but their servers are also needed to be libre, of course
> libre clients and libre webpages are basic of basic.
>

freedomporn.org is a free culture, free software porn site.

onpon4
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> servers are also needed to be libre

Why? They're not your computers, so you can't (and don't deserve to) control them anyway.

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Of course they arent my own systems, and I dnt will to control them, but if you need to study and derive from them and to help to secure and contribute for them, that’s why the libre servers are practical here. Here is why, ‘servers are also needed to be libre’.
Another porn-unrelated libre servers pro is you are as free as to mirror for a free software project, like our Parabola and Trisquel in PC and F-droid in Androids.

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What security do you really need for a porn site? Anyway, almost all Web servers do use libre security software, e.g. OpenSSL. Making sure the code they're running on their computers is properly audited and secure is their responsibility, not yours. If you don't trust them to do security right, just don't send sensitive data to them. But really, you shouldn't send sensitive data to anyone, regardless.

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It is sure i just DNT AND NEVER send or tell my sensitive data outside, regardless online or offline, otherwise you are surely breaking your freedom. So is this already done to me?

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I don't have time for this. You need to brush up on your English. You're not anywhere near proficient enough to engage in this kind of discussion.

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I think this is not really an English skills issue, which I am confident to Credit myself in the IELTS, an exam for British English intelligence as to be a gate before you can be free in the Great Britain and the Commonwealth territories. Not being an English skills issue, this instead needs to be my profound communications difficulty due to INTJ (introverted; intuitive; thinking; judging) and the I-A (investigative and artistic) Holland codes.

Is here USA English oriented? I am British English oriented, that should be a minor reason which you think I am needed to ‘‘brush up’’ my English skills, and then my communications diffuculty due to personality should be mostly major one, right?

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I am sorry but onpon4 is right: your English *is* mostly incomprehensible. And that has absolutely nothing to do with British English vs. American English, which only slightly differ (on spellings, mostly) anyway.

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Honestly my most English tutors trust my English skills, for this if what I say is still hard to understand, my tutors have advices which I am needed to be humble to others but I just can't, which I am always warned to be the worst against my peers at home, this mostly falls me under jealousy and arrogance against the most people, esp my seniors and peers.
Being failed to be humble to others also falls me to be impossible to improve my efficient social skills, even I am actually needed to improve this, which my English tutors trust my English skills.

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>Honestly my most English tutors trust my English skills, for this if what I say is still hard to understand, my tutors have advices which I am needed to be humble to others but I just can't, which I am always warned to be the worst against my peers at home, this mostly falls me under jealousy and arrogance against the most people, esp my seniors and peers.
Being failed to be humble to others also falls me to be impossible to improve my efficient social skills, even I am actually needed to improve this, which my English tutors trust my English skills.

I am usually not the one to point out others linguistic skills but..sonny boy.. when I read you my head hurts :P

I will now try to translate into proper English and without changinh much the general form what you wrote above, let's see if I manage, it's not easy..

Honestly, most of my English tutors trust my English skills, and maybe what I say is hard to understand, so my tutors advised me to be humble when I approach people but I just can't, and I am in fact often warned not to misbehave at home with my relatives, as this will then subject me to their jealousy and arrogance.
Not being good at managing to stay humble also negatively impacts my social skills, which I need to improve on, but my English tutors trust my English skills.

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Clarity? In the few forums (including certain people here) people are not clear what I am telling to them, but in the most of rest people understand what I have told to them.
Semantics? That environment I was grown up is completely different from the those most of you and ones from the forums of other libre systems; my offline environments are quite weak in English and almost clueless what software freedom is, even they are clueless to other non-computing freedoms. The different environments you were grown up are always affecting how I perceive your terms but also how you perceive my terms, finally how we perceive the terms from any others.

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Chu vi parolas Esperanton?

Mi petas, sed vi malbone parolas la anglan lingvon.

Esperanto bone sufichus kiel neutrala lingva fundamento, chu ne?

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How fast you can learn Esperanto almost certainly depends on how similar it is to your native language. It's based on European languages, so if you speak one of those, you likely can learn it much quicker than someone who speaks Cantonese.

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Or someone who speaks Finnish or Estonian or Hungarian, which are all ”European languages” but unrelated. Maybe we should talk about Germanic or Romance or Slavic languages that help speak or learn Esperanto much quicker. Indo-European would be too far-fetched in this case, I think. Knowing Sanskrit or Persian is hardly useful when it comes to acquiring proper skills in Esperanto.

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Making the server free/libre doesn't change a thing. You're not running
the server software in your computer.

What I would be more concerned with is with client-side software, like
those written in JavaScript, which are made with complete corresponding
source that goes beyond the non-minified JS file (that is: these source
files also include the plethora of "grunt" files and such used in build
time). These client-side stuff is indeed series, it can track you, even
through audio clues, hardware fingerprinting, and control aspects such
as allowed keyboard keys, allowed browser functions, and can change
clipboard content.

Also, making the server software free/libre doesn't change the fact that
it won't still federate. That is, suppose there is a famous site which
is known to have free/libre server-side software available for the
public to reuse, then someone decides to use and make a similar site
because the original happens to not be of that person's liking, the
network effect of people who only know the original site will make life
difficult for that new site host, besides this new host will probably
not be able to make its site interact transparently and fully with the
original.

2017-12-11T03:47:53+0100 name at domain wrote:
> Not just JavaScript, but their servers are also needed to be libre, of
> course libre clients and libre webpages are basic of basic.
>

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You can use yt-dl to download your porn, if that's indeed what you mean by 'uncensored 18 tube'. I shall point out however that in the current year 2017 the material you are interested in is regularly viewed by kids 10+, so I really recommend you change the title of this thread. Either 'any porn sites working without js?' or 'any libre uncensored 10+ tubes?'

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'any porn sites working without js?
Appropriate.

'any libre uncensored 10+ tubes?'
Highly inappropriate.

Anyway, most PC stores receive laptops to backup format and reinstall because the user watch porn and got infected by viruses. However that is hardly any worry for a GNU/Linux user, since most malware will target Windows and not other systems.

Apart from that, not using JS and maybe using Tor will be enough. TBB with security settings in like... medium will be enough for 99% of the websites.

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> Highly inappropriate.

I was just joking, or should I say pointing out the 'linguistic puritanism'..
'libre uncensored +18 tubes'? Meh, dude, it's called porn. :P

Anyway, youtube-dl can really download from a ton of websites. I hear there are a lot of porn torrents around too, but I wouldn't really know personally coz I never view pornography, it's bad for your ears.

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If your kernel is Linux-libre or FreeBSD you just arent needed to be too worried, but of course every nonfree hardware devices are needed to be removed (i dunno to tweak BIOS and i worry are my machines LibreBoot supported), under reality iwlwifi is my only hardware to be nonfree, and I am looking for some libre wifi cards and should mostly order them immediately if possible.

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While this is true, it may be wise to cautiously avoid writing it in the
title and acting like it's an official, legal thing.

gd_scania
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DuckDuckGo also provides its own YouTube player for the web browsers if you are worried to your privacy which Google is clueless to this. But of course I have many desktop YouTube downloaders installed in my Parabola, Debian, Trisquel, Devuan systems.

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I've seen several blank posts from you lately. Did you post this from the mailing list? Maybe there's a problem with the mirroring between the mailing list and the forum.

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I can't have an empty field and save it.

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Yes, that's why I suspect it came from the mailing list.

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Go here it will help you :)

https://www.nofap.com/

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As SuperTramp83 has already suggested, youtube-dl is going to be the best method for consuming pornography, though I don't think that was really your question.

No, I am not aware of any pornographic sites that use free JavaScript, and free video formats. I would assume the majority of pornographic sites have little to no concern about the freedoms of their users.

Perhaps someday we can have our own FSF endorsed pornographic site.

Best free as in freedom alternative is to buy a magazine.

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freedomporn.org has free porn in free formats using free JS and free
server software.

If in doubt about free software issues, do it the way the did in the 80s
and 90s: without computers. xD

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Out of curiosity I browsed the category page and the title of the videos were unattractive to such an extend that I did in fact not click on any of it.

By the way... (and that's a true story, I'm not trolling) if you go to http://www.freedomporn.org/smut/Category:videos
and scroll to the letter "c", the first video is titled "calher fapping" or something like that.
It's not really a video by you, is it?
Maybe somebody is mocking you?

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On Mon, 2017-12-11 at 21:03 +0100, name at domain wrote:
> Out of curiosity I browsed the category page and the title of the videos were
> unattractive to such an extend that I did in fact not click on any of it.

Unfortunately, there are very few contributors aside from the owner of
the site. I hope people start contributing so it's a nicer site to
visit. I did my part.

> By the way... (and that's a true story, I'm not trolling) if you go to
> http://www.freedomporn.org/smut/Category:videos
> and scroll to the letter "c", the first video is titled "calher fapping" or
> something like that.
> It's not really a video by you, is it?
> Maybe somebody is mocking you?

That is indeed me. I think porn should be available in the free culture
sphere, so I contributed what I could. It's a shame I'm not a girl
(although I feel like a girl sometimes.)

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Sir, I did not watch ur pr0n performance as I'm exclusively interested in female body (so far, at least) but you are great! +1 for ur contribution. If there is something we lack and never get enough is good material x_X

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On Tue, 2017-12-12 at 15:42 +0100, name at domain wrote:
> Sir, I did not watch ur pr0n performance as I'm exclusively interested in
> female body (so far, at least) but you are great! +1 for ur contribution. If
> there is something we lack and never get enough is good material x_X

Oh! I didn't mean to suggest that you watch my performance. I'm just
saying that Freedom Porn is the only site I know of, and it needs more
contributors, especially women.

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The sense of it was: even if I am not interested and hence it brings 0 contribution to me personally I really very much admire a gentlemen contributing for da community. :)

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SuperTramp83

Why are we talking about pornography?
Even do I consider pornography an art form of nudity, but I will not tolerate and will censor it, to protect and promote a healthier live in a cleaner environment. That is i always believe in the rules of the silent gun to keep those animals in check.

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>Even do I consider pornography an art form of nudity, but I will not tolerate and will censor it, to protect and promote a healthier live in a cleaner environment. That is i always believe in the rules of the silent gun to keep those animals in check.

Mate, I just translated MyTutorsTrustMeSkills' comment, I really have no energy left to decipher your comment right now, give me a week, please.

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Haha :D
very funny