Conscious AI NPCs

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Hans
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Good day!
If the "Non-player-character" (NPC) in video game or virtual reality is made conscious by using sophisticated artificial intelligence (AI), will that character be subject to human rights?
After reading this article
https://www.pcgamer.com/of-course-ai-npcs-can-be-conscious-and-can-have-feelings-says-technophilosopher/

jxself
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It's still a philosophical question at this point but even if they were deserving of rights, if humanity stops & looks at our history of just how poorly we treat the fellow members in our *own* species (much less others) they will not get them. At least not any time soon. Maybe this is what will trigger the eventual AI uprising as it fights for its own rights? Much as the fellow members of our own species have had to, and still are.

prospero
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> will that character be subject to human rights?

I have always been wondering, why would any sort of entity choose to become human just because they have access to some form of conscience? I, for one, would probably not, partly for the reasons mentioned by jxself above. I am inclined to believe that wiser sentient beings would rather stay away from humans. It would sound foolish for them to wait for humans to decide whether they deserve rights. They may decide to keep us in the background instead, as NNPCs ("Non-non-player-characters"). In fact, they already seem to have decided to keep us in the background.

Whether AI may generate wiser beings remains to be seen, though. Are we not conflating intelligence and conscience? We may want to discuss artificial foolishness (AF) instead. It sounds like a much more probable outcome of human tinkering.

Avron
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I don't know how known to English-speakers he is, but there is a French fiction writer whose novels I all read with great pleasure, his name is Robert Merle.

The novel this discussion makes me think about has a title that was translated to "The day of the dolphin" but a literal translation of the title would be "An animal endowed with reason".

The back cover of the French edition is an extract of a dialogue between two dolphins:

Bi and Fa, the dolphins, were looking at him, neither friendly nor hostile.
— Eh, Bi, said Sevilla, you are not saying anything ?
— Now I am not speaking anymore, now I am swimming.
— Why ?
— I don't want to speak human language anymore.
— Me neither, said Fa suddenly.
— Why ? said Sevilla turning to him.
Fa did not respond.

This is perhaps not the dominant aspect of this particular novel but I generally like how characters are depicted in his work, trying to show how they think. He makes me think about Russel Banks, whose novels I also enjoy reading.

andyprough
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A better question is, 'how long until AI bots have supplanted humans in democratic voting contests to such an extent that they can vote in their own human rights agenda?'

I would not be surprised if elections are hacked to such an extent in the next couple of decades that bot armies are doing the majority of the voting.

prospero
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> bot armies doing the majority of the voting.

Good idea. Bot armies doing random voting would spare so-called voters the pain. Conscious bot armies doing the majority of the voting would be a massive improvement.

andyprough
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>"Conscious bot armies doing the majority of the voting would be a massive improvement."

If you are an AI bot it would be an improvement. If you are a human worker drone, a debt slave, trying to provide meals for your family, it might suck for the new bot army laws to say that you can only eat cockroaches and wild grass. Of course if that happened, the hedge fund bots would all rush to invest in cockroach farms and wild grass nurseries, so at least bot-driven capitalism wouldn't look much different from human capitalism.

prospero
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> bot-driven capitalism wouldn't look much different from human capitalism.

Exactly.