KDE telemetry and Triskel (Trisquel KDE)
Anyways, still think that Debian was more honest about it with popcon, and popcon tor support, so that's good there's some possible useful mitigation is in place that one could use. Trisquel's privacy policy is for website and forums stuff, requires internet to use like "telemetry" but still are quite different things to compare against popcon and kde's "userfeedback"? That's good at least KDE isn't sending data out by default it appears? "Moderation" is the washed down propaganda terminology used for reddit censorship?
Personal experience = all good for Andy? https://trisquel.info/en/forum/mate-lose-themes-and-x11-support?page=1#comment-160916
Personal experience = a lie for Andy? https://trisquel.info/en/forum/whats-wrong-lineage-os-if-there-any#comment-160585.
Andy, why can't you at least start a topic in the troll lounge if you actually have concerns about freedumb of speech, although this is a forum not a personal blog, and anyone's posts can be downvoted, not just yours?
As for the KDE issue, I think one way to satisfy most people would be to load the kuserfeedback library at runtime if it exists. That way you wouldn't have to compile separate telemetry and non-telemetry versions and people could choose whether or not to install the library.
Also, I don't know if you're referring to something I said, but I wasn't referring to Reddit censorship. The moderation here is light and usually pretty sensible, in my opinion.
"As for the KDE issue, I think one way to satisfy most people would be to load the kuserfeedback library at runtime if it exists. That way you wouldn't have to compile separate telemetry and non-telemetry versions and people could choose whether or not to install the library."
True, sounds more ideal.
"Also, I don't know if you're referring to something I said, but I wasn't referring to Reddit censorship. The moderation here is light and usually pretty sensible, in my opinion."
True, not with what you said or with the Trisquel forums.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/psm9sd/why_telemetry_why/
^ Not sure if I brought up this link, but stuck me as possibly suspicious how KDE responded, (if it's KDE's official reddit), and also just a random thought on probably anti-social medias, in general.
"Yes gas - I already posted there…
Have you found it yet...?"
I wasn't claiming that you have never posted in the troll lounge before. Just, with your "complaints" of "sockpuppets", just nevermind?
"Have you found any "independent evidence" or "independent audit"..?"
For what? I don't follow with what you are referring to.
"this data is thrown away or how soon. (Debian’s PS says keeps indefinitely"
It doesn't say that.
"When asked he refuses to supply even one shred of evidence that this data is thrown away or how soon."
We've been over this multiple times. When any one deletes the server log data, you might never be able to know for sure, but other ways can be used to mitigate the potential issues.
"Have you recently added minus vote to get another of my posts hidden?"
Don't think that down-voting you hides comments?
"We can all see how the fanboys buckled when asked a simple direct question as they seem not to understand the simple term "independent evidence" or "conducting an audit"..? etc."
What?
"The default is 'maybe' with popularity-contest 1.65, so Tor will be used if available." ... "Each popularity-contest host is identified by a random 128bit uuid (MY_HOSTID in /etc/popularity-contest.conf). This uuid is used to track submissions issued by the same host. It should be kept secret." ... "The server automatically extracts the report from the email or HTTP and stores it in a database for a maximum of 20 days or until the host sends a new report. This database is readable only by Debian Developers. The emails are readable only by the server admins. Every day, the server computes a summary and posts it on . This summary is a merge of all the submissions and does not include uuids." ... "Known weaknesses of the system:" ... "Someone who knows that you are very likely to use a particular package reported by only one person (e.g. you are the maintainer) might infer you are not at home when the package is not reported anymore. However this is only a problem if you are gone for more than two weeks if the computer is shut-down and 23 days if it is let idle."
https://popcon.debian.org/FAQ
"Have you such a short memory or are you smothering again like on GrapheneOS so that our readers give up and information is stifled..?" ... "Stop pretending - Stop wasting my time - Stop smothering - shameful"
But you can bring up wayland in the kde "telemetry" forum, when there's another forum topic for wayland...? And, your accusations of "smoothering" and "stifled" don't make seem to make much sense when used together?