Spotdefy - Spotify with useless surveillance?

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GNUbahn
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The functionality of Spotify I think is good. There are serious ethical issues about the business model when it comes to artists payment. But this is also the case with many ordinary labels. In this thread I wish solely to address the question of using Spotify without being profiled (correctly).

I have no technical knowledge but have learned that almost anything is possible when it comes to software.

Let's call the software spotdefy and install it on a server to which I have access through a spotdefy@server account. When I log-in to Spotdefy, spotdefy connects me to a VM like instanxe that does not reveal the user's ip-address (or other identifying information). Basically the spotify account is connected to a VM like instance.

When I have a spotdefy account I can connect to the spotdefy server which will designate me and connect my computer to a spotify account not in use at the moment (this requires a more spotify accounts than there are spotdefy users at the particular server). Each time I connect to spotdefy I am designated a random spotify account of those not in use at the moment.

When the song I am currently listening to finishes, spotdefy will automatically change the spotdefy VM like instance I am connected to and, hence, the spotify account I am connected to.

Would something like that be feasible?

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Better to use qemu or something thats free software to run non-free stuff then to run it directly on your comp.

At least from a security perspective,

On a privacy/freedom perspective not so much. But yeah I have a vm with xp on it. So yeah...

Just sayin... :P

But yeah, I realize it sounds hypocritical, but I like to be honest. :) But Obviously I keep xp's internet functions disabled completely. ;P

GNUbahn
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Why do you need xp (or ms-os in general)?

zapper (not verified)
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Well, old games... I have an old school computer game that is not supported by wine. Sorry!.exe

Meh... unless someone ports functionality into wine, yeah... I really don't have a choice IF I want to play it ever.

Occasionally I do play it... ;)

If only... someone would port it, or tell me how to use it in linux via wine without vastly compromising my security. :)

Anywho, its a pipedream at the moment. But yeah, thats not the only game either. Westwood monopoly is one too. :P

but yeah, thats my issue.

GNUbahn
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They must be very good games :-)

But why did you come up with the xp@qemu thing here in the talk of spotify/spotdefy?

zapper (not verified)
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Both are proprietary obviously. :P

Well, except QEMU. :)

So I was drawing a comparison between xp and spotify.

Both of which suck for most uses. One though, is vastly worse. :P

(because you need the internet to use it)

Beko
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Possible? Yes. Probable? No. Sorry to be a little blunt but you ultimately need someone to write the script/program that is going to execute what you want. I don't think many people are concerned about Spotify's tracking when Google, Facebook and Microsoft among others are much more prominent.

Not to fret though, the most anonymous way to obtain music would be torrents. There are ethical concerns about whether or not you want to torrent music. You could always just torrent an entire album, then donate a few dollars to the artist.

Or you could just buy DRM-free CDs/DVDs in person and pay cash.

Edit: Throwing an artist a dollar per album you torrent would be more than what spotify would pay them for multiple listenings of the same album...

GNUbahn
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Thanks for you replies.

I like your idea of torrenting and paying directly to the artist. For some artists it's probably easy but I would imagine that for others it would be hard to find information about such payments. But who knows... (I have never tried)

Wouldn't it be fairly easy for someone with basic server knowledge to set up a private music streaming server for one self?

Beko
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I have one myself. I have a 2TB network drive which I have songs/movies on and I stream it to whatever device I want. That's pretty easy, but to stream songs/etc from Spotify I do not know.. Sorry

GNUbahn
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Sigh. I wish I did not encounter challenges above my skills every time I try to install and set up a fully free software server...

GNUbahn
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Which software do you use for your streaming service?

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On 1/19/20 8:21 AM, name at domain wrote:
> Which software do you use for your streaming service?

I use a radio.

Beko
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You can use Kodi for general network streaming. I've tried VLC which literally stands for Video Lan Client, but it didn't really work for me. I use VLC for videos on my computer, kodi for videos on network, and usually rhythmbox for music both on pc and network. Kodi is great because it can do everything, all depends on your tastes

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> Wouldn't it be fairly easy for someone with basic server knowledge to
> set up a private music streaming server for one self?

Do you want just want to stream to other computers in your local
network, or do you need access from outside your home?

You might try miniDLNA. I have all of my movies saved on one desktop
computer (the one I most often watch them on), and that same computer is
running miniDLNA, configured to share the directory containing all of
the moives. From any other computer in my local network, I can open
VLC, go to "Universal Plug N Play", and browse and stream these movies.
I see no reason audio files wouldn't work just as well.

Airsonic seems for focused on music streaming specifically, but I've
never tried it so I'm not sure how easy it is to setup and use.

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Although it is not Spotify (rather YouTube, Jamendo, and SoundCloud), Nuclear may interest you: https://nuclear.js.org

GNUbahn
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Thanks. I am aware of this from an earlier thread. But with children in the house I have to find an alternative which provides a music catalogue with more songs than nuclear's.