(Trisquel Mini) Loading/buffering into eternity when selecting SMPlayer YouTube Browser in repository

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GrevenGull
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So when I click on SMPlayer YouTube Browser to install it through the repository, the cursor turns into this loading wheel and spins and spins and spins etc :)

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If I recall correctly, while SMPlayer is free software, the SMTube plugin that allows it to stream from YouTube is not, so it is disabled in Trisquel.

EDIT: I misunderstood your post. It sounds like you're having trouble installing SMPlayer itself. When that happens, try installing the application in a terminal$ sudo apt install smplayerand see if you get any errors.

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Oh well, but if I need unfree software to stream from youtube, I'll just drop it.

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>if I need unfree software to stream from youtube, I'll just drop it

But you don't. :)
Streaming any yt link is as simple as opening your terminal and typing:

mpv 'url'

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Hmm, that didn't seem to work for various reasons.

I tried mpv *insert url to youtube video here*

to which I got "bash: mpv: command not found".

Then I tried to substitute mpv for VLC which then opened VLC with two separate windows warning about youtube being an unknown source etc etc with options to "abort" etc.

I attached some screenshots:

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SuperTramp83

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Is mpv installed, mate Graven?

which mpv

It would appear from 'mpv: command not found' it is not.

sudo apt-get install mpv

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I think you were quite correct in your assumption Senior Super. It also seems as though I only need to type:

sudo apt install mpv

to install the package.

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So I tried now and got this (see screenshot). Does this mean that the video is behind DRM or something? Or is it anything other I'm missing?:)

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>It also seems as though I only need to type:

Oh, I thought you were using Trisquel 7.0..

>Does this mean that the video is behind DRM or something?

As far as I understand something is wrong with your youtube-dl. Well, is it installed? :)

sudo apt install youtube-dl

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Hey, I do appreciate all the help and guidance here that I have been on the receiving end of, but after ADFENO's comment in this https://trisquel.info/en/forum/summary-which-youtube-applications-does-what-and-how-free-they-are post, I no longer have a desire to get these packages running.

PS. How do I link to comments?

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Right-click on the post number (in its upper-right corner, prefixed with "#"), copy the link and paste it in your post.

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Cheers! :)

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ADFENO is right as usual. We should not allow Google to control our access to videos or information in any other form. Try to acquire information from other sources when you can, and if you have videos or other media to share I recommend MediaGoblin as a replacement for YouTube, DeviantArt, and similar sites. However, in situations where for some reason you must access YouTube to watch a video, I suggest avoiding youtube.com and using one of the other methods that have been suggested to you.

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On Sat, 2018-01-13 at 23:30 -0800, name at domain wrote:
> ADFENO is right as usual. We should not allow Google to control our access to videos or information in any other form. Try to acquire information from other sources when you can, and if you have videos or other media to share I recommend MediaGoblin as a replacement for YouTube, DeviantArt, and similar sites. However, in situations where for some reason you must access YouTube to watch a video, I suggest avoiding youtube.com and using one of the other methods that have been suggested to you.

I archive all watched YouTube videos in WebM, so people don't have to
run proprietary JavaScript programs or break US patent law to watch
videos I recommend.

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name at domain wrote:
> But you don't. :)
>  Streaming any yt link is as simple as opening your terminal and typing:
>
> mpv 'url'

Does mpv execute nonfree JS to get YouTube videos?

It would be possible for any program that downloads YouTube-hosted videos
to do precisely what youtube-dl does. Such a program could include
youtube-dl code in multiple ways. This approach would provide considerable
convenience to the user and thus recapitulate all the problems which avideo
solves by not executing YouTube's DRM-implementing JS.

Perhaps you'd be better off using avideo
(https://notabug.org/GPast/avideo/) and finding another way to see the
videos avideo can't download, or just skipping those videos altogether.

I too don't recommend hosting anything with Google. I also don't want users
to think that some other video downloader program will grant a user the
freedom from DRM or freedom from executing arbitrary JS which (it's my
understanding) avideo was written to do.

-J

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mpv uses youtube-dl in the background, and will automatically start
using avideo in the background if avideo is installed. Using mpv is
fine as long as you use avideo to avoid proprietary Google scripts.

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>Does mpv execute nonfree JS to get YouTube videos?

Mpv uses youtube-dl and that one executes the bad bad javascript which needs to die from violent death.
Don't use it.

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On Fri, 2017-12-29 at 22:14 +0100, name at domain wrote:
> >if I need unfree software to stream from youtube, I'll just drop it
>
> But you don't. :)
> Streaming any yt link is as simple as opening your terminal and typing:
>
> mpv 'url'

mpv uses youtube-dl in the background, which runs proprietary Google
code in the background.

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