Best way to have always up-to-date Gnash

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mYself
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I was dissatisfied that there is no proper way to install the latest GNU Gnash (0.8.10) on Trisquel, so I searched a bit over the internet and crafted this 3-line code with which you can have it:
$ sudo add-apt-repository 'deb http://getgnash.org/debs/ubuntu natty main'
$ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys A0B6D3FE
$ sudo apt-get remove mozilla-plugin-gnash

For newbies:
To install the latest Gnash, open Terminal (with [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[T]), then type the code above (without the '$' mark) and confirm each line with [Enter]. If the password are asked for, enter your login password.

Then perform an update/upgrade with 'Update Manager' and, from now on, you will always get the latest packages.

Note, that although this is a release, as mentioned in this announcement, these builds are still experimental:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnash/2012-02/msg00000.html

t3g
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There is also https://launchpad.net/~dns/+archive/gnu/ which includes Gnash and more than a handful of up to date GNU software.

mYself
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I know that. It is the official GNU PPA and was mentioned earlier in a previous thread discussed here:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/gnash

That PPA contain many snapshots/backports of packages that are not properly tested and can be unstable. I just does not like the idea to upgrade a bunch of other packages (with it's unstable counterparts) just because I want to upgrade only one of them. But thanks anyway!

t3g
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I tried it out. The videos don't load at all on sites that are SWF 10 and above. Also, is there hardware acceleration? I tried the same video on Youtube with this and the Adobe version and the performance was much smoother with Adobe.

mYself
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Q: The videos don't load at all on sites that are SWF 10 and above.
A: Gnash does not support SWF 10(+)/ActionScript 3(AVM2). If you want a support for the latest Flash versions, use Lightspark!

A more up-to-date version of Lightspark (0.5.0 vs 0.4.6) can be obtained via this PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~sparkers/+archive/ppa

Do not forget to also install the 'browser-plugin-lightspark' package which does not come along with Lightspark installed.

Q: Also, is there hardware acceleration?
A: Gnash supports hardware acceleration (VA-API, OMAP, Xv) but it is disabled by default.

Q: ...the performance was much smoother with Adobe.
A: Use YouTube with HTML5! You can activate it on https://www.youtube.com/html5.

This thread is meant as a reaction to the previous thread about Gnash where I does not found a satisfiable answer. I does not wanted to start another discussion about it, just wanted to share that there is a proper way to install it!

I personally use Gnash/Lightspark + JDownloader(the best non-p2p downloader available) + some HTML source tinkering to watch Flash videos.

Also, there is a YouTube alternative which does not use Flash. It is called Stagevu an you can visit it's homepage on http://stagevu.com/ (requires Totem + GStreamer plugins to be installed).

More information can be obtained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightspark

aloniv

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JDownloader is not released under a free license so please do not promote its use. There are free alternatives to JDownloader, such as Tucan Manager and FatRat.

mYself
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That is not true! JDownloader is released under GNU GPLv3, although it contain some closed-source parts[1] (see the 'License' section on it's Wikipedia article), like the non-free unrar[2]. I searched more about this topic over the internet but does not found any valuable information regarding which parts are they nor how to remove them. Maybe I will try to contact the developers.

Because the project comes from Spain like Trisquel, you may know more about it and can give me more information because that is all I know!

Wikipedia article about JDownloader:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JDownloader

Source code can be obtained here:
http://jdownloader.com/articles/source-code.html

Proof, that JDownloader has GPLv3:
https://trisquel.info/files/jdownloader-license.png

[1] Violates the GPL?
[2] Can be found at '~/.jdownloader/tools/linux/unrar/unrar'. It is automatically downloaded during the first start (from 'http://update4ex.jdownloader.org/branches/last09/tools/linux/unrar/unrar').

aloniv

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According to this thread which is in German (and can be translated terribly using online services)
http://board.gulli.com/thread/1233306-jdownloader-opensource---glaub-ich-nicht/
the containers are outsourced to an extra component, which is not released as free software in order to keep the key and the access to the DLC-server secret. When using the DLC container it needs to connect to JDownloader's service to extract the links, so JDownloader is essentially a software as a service for this use.

mYself
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Thanks! I read it before using 'Google Translate' but I could not understand the meaning of it. Again, thank you for your explanation.

Daniel Molina
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El mar, 28-02-2012 a las 01:26 +0100, name at domain escribió:
> I tried it out. The videos don't load at all on sites that are SWF 10 and
> above. Also, is there hardware acceleration? I tried the same video on
> Youtube with this and the Adobe version and the performance was much
> smoother.

This is not a development forum. If you really want to help building
better free software, join to the dev teams you consider and talk about
that there. This is for helping people to find freedom.

But the point is that you are not a newby here and I cannot find you
innocent. STOP BOYCOTTING. You do know which is the Trisquel position
and what is considered wrong. If you want to participate follow our
guidelines. Your participation here is important for Trisquel's users.
You can do/think/install/promote what you want to you and your friends,
but the Trisquel Forum is a big responsability. We are not neutral. This
is not a Open Source product. We are all working togheter for bringing
freedom to people. If by any particular reason/intention you want to
participate here, make it compatible with not saying that any privative
software is working fine/better and calling the operative system as a
whole GNU/Linux.

Dave_Hunt

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You don't havbe to upgrade everything; if all you want is gnash from
that ppa, just get that, leaving all else alone. For extra protection,
disable the ppa in software sources, after updating gnash.

-Dave

On 02/27/2012 05:09 PM, name at domain wrote:
> I know that. It is the official GNU PPA and was mentioned in a previous
> thread here:
> https://trisquel.info/en/forum/gnash
>
> That PPA contain many snapshots/backports of packages that are not
> properly tested and can be unstable. I just does not like the idea to
> upgrade a bunch of other packages (with it's unstable counterparts) just
> because I want to upgrade only one of them. But thanks anyway!
>