Freeplane suggestions

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Mojeagle
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Iscritto: 04/05/2013

Hi,
I have been using Freeplane for sometime and find the ease of making connected nodes very helpful. But, i find the parent-child connectivity too restrictive sometimes. Can anyone who uses it advice me on how to create multi-parent single child connections and flowchart like representations.
Also, i welcome suggestions for any other software.
Thanks.

BugRep
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Iscritto: 04/05/2012

Some programs are mind maping software, which is not what you want. You need concept mapping software, but I can only give you a list of both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concept_mapping_software

Freeplane is a fork of FreeMind, and FreeMind seems to support this (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Freemind-0.9x_Screenshoot.png), so maybe you should try it.

Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
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Iscritto: 09/17/2012

That's linking or something. Freeplane has that feature.

On 05/04/13 17:56, name at domain wrote:
> Some programs are mind maping software, which is not what you want. You
> need concept mapping software, but I can only give you a list of both.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concept_mapping_software
>
> Freeplane is a fork of FreeMind, and FreeMind seems to support this
> (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Freemind-0.9x_Screenshoot.png),
> so maybe you should try it.

Mojeagle
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Iscritto: 04/05/2013

wikipedia is how i came to know about freeplane. I was at that time looking for an alternative to freemind.

Are you talking about the node with text "Free Positioned Node"? The curved arrows are not really links, it is actually only linked with the node "Demo" below.
And it looks more weird when you try to align the nodes like a flowchart.

I really love the ease of creating & collapsing nodes in Freeplane. But, i cant seem to make any technical diagrams or flowcharts using it.

BugRep
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Iscritto: 04/05/2012

I noticed the node so I included the link to the picture. Didn't really check the feature out.

For diagrams and flowcharts I use Dia. You can find it in the Trisquel repositories. In Dia, you need to put objects and connect them, so I imagine that is not exactly what you are looking for. Although it doesn't look very fancy, it does the job well for me.

Mojeagle
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Iscritto: 04/05/2013

I use Dia too. The default objects & connections do have shortcuts assigned, so that reduces repeatedly going back to the toolbox.
Freeplane is pretty good to store & manage information. Its surprising that mindmap file format is not yet popular. The best thing is it allows to collapse nodes, so everything doesnt need to be always spread out.
But, it lacks flowchart representation feature.

btw, do you know how to assign keyboard shortcuts for the flowchart objects in Dia?

BugRep
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Iscritto: 04/05/2012

No.

By looking at a basic .mm file structure, I can see it is not fit for representing flowcharts. It is hierarchical, so it is not good for all programs.

If you had a circular flow, where a parent would also be a ((great) grand) child of itself, collapsing it would hide it by recursion. Then you wouldn't be able to uncollapse it, for it would not be there anymore.

Mojeagle
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Iscritto: 04/05/2013

For overcoming that i think the collapsing code will have to detect & treat the loop as single entity. Such that when a loop gets created all (+-)collapse points on the loop's path disappear. And when a loop is broken (+-)collapse points reappear.

But, it seems main hurdle here is that the links are not separate objects.

Right now, to include diagrams i use the inline image feature. But, that causes a lot of to and fro between Freeplane & Diagramming software.

In its current state, to add a flowchart feature, most feasible approach would be to add a draw toolbar which allows to create/edit diagrams inside a Node.