Does Trisquel support Flatpaks?

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FinixFighter
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se unió: 01/23/2019

Hi everyone! I was wondering if Trisquel supports Flatpaks by default, and if not, why? I know some software distributed via Flatpak isn't free software, but I know about some free software that is distributed only via Flatpak (they don't have a deb package). Wouldn't it be possible to add just the free software flatpaks to the Trisquel store?

Legimet
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se unió: 12/10/2013

Flatpak is available in Trisquel.

FinixFighter
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se unió: 01/23/2019

By default? Because I tried to search for some software available as flatpak, but I didn't find it.

calher

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se unió: 06/19/2015

Like on Ubuntu, you may need to install Flatpak. Ubuntu doesn't have it
by default either, because of Canonical's bias towards the terrible,
proprietary repo-imposing Snap.

FinixFighter
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se unió: 01/23/2019

You're right, I didn't have it installed XD Thanks!

andyprough
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se unió: 02/12/2015

>"By default? Because I tried to search for some software available as flatpak, but I didn't find it."

Yes, it's in the default Trisquel repo. It works for me just fine. You must not be searching correctly. 'flatpak search [package_name]' is what I do. Did you install flatpak and a flatpak repository before you searched?

Too bloated though, I'm getting rid of it.

Malsasa
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se unió: 12/01/2016

Interesting question. The official repository of Flatpak is Flathub,
which I discover to be mixed up between free and proprietary software
and today I do not know any free software-only Flatpak repository
available. Fedora has its own Flatpak repository[1] and it seems
closer to the FSDG[2] but the number of packages is not satisfying at
the moment. It is certainly possible and easy too to install free
software apps, if you know, from Flathub using Flatpak, but using it
may also lead to installing nonfree software if you don't know. I am
interested to know my friends forum members' opinions on this.

Sincerely,

Malsasa
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[1] https://developer.fedoraproject.org/deployment/flatpak/flatpak-usage.html
[2] https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.en.html

andyprough
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se unió: 02/12/2015

The KDEapps flatpak repo is pretty cool and is all free software. https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Flatpak

It has bleeding edge developer builds of different KDE programs, which are fun to try. Sometimes they are broken though. Like with most flatpak repos, you're still going to have to have flathub enabled, as that is where they pull their dependent runtimes from.

Legimet
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se unió: 12/10/2013

I didn't know about the KDE repo, might be useful in the future. Thanks!

andyprough
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se unió: 02/12/2015

Can't use it without flathub though. I tried it with the free Fedora flatpak repo instead of flathub and I get this lack of runtime error:
error: The application org.kde.okular.kirigami/x86_64/master requires the runtime org.kde.Platform/x86_64/5.15-21.08 which was not found

calher

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se unió: 06/19/2015

The Flathub Flatpak repo contains proprietary software, and most
programs are distributed there.

The Fedora Flatpak repo rehosts many packages that are on Flathub and
has a policy of excluding proprietary software. For now, that is the
only repo that exists.

I would really like to see a free software Flatpak repo. Unlike Snap,
Flatpak allows for this, and we should take advantage of it.

andyprough
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se unió: 02/12/2015

That works really well, and it's good to know that the Fedora one avoids proprietary software. Very useful.

I guess I do love IBM/RedHat after all, even if they are trying to enslave all of mankind with the Rust programming language.

Legimet
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se unió: 12/10/2013

Fun fact: the GNU FSDG is based on Fedora's licensing guidelines. Of course, Fedora has an exception for proprietary firmware which disqualifies it.

calher

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se unió: 06/19/2015

I would like to see a comparison/diff. The GNU FSDG does credit Fedora, but the FSF Licensing Lab does not know which document from Fedora it is.

For this reason, I use Fedora with Linux Libre.
--
Caleb Herbert
https://bluehome.net/csh/

Sent from my GrapheneOS device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

FinixFighter
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se unió: 01/23/2019

You guys are right, a free software flatpak repo would be amazing! So that it can be directly included in the OS. :)

Dave_Hunt

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se unió: 09/19/2011

Have another vote in favor of a free software flatpak repo.

Ark74

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I am a translator!

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se unió: 07/15/2009

This is part of a broader discussion as jxself has rightly pointed out before.

We might try to look for the right channels of communication as the policy for side package managers are yet to be determined by specific guidelines for Free Distros.

Jason has pointed out that, such place might be here: https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-linux-libre

Cheers!