Few problems in Trisquel 7
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Hello community,
let's tell you about my problems (denoted as numbers below).
I've installed Trisquel 7 few days ago and while I've liked the updated user interface I have problem configuring it. The worst thing is I cannot change the writhing language (1). In the installation process I chose Bulgarian besides the default English input source. When I logged in I cannot see language applet in the panel (2) which seems a big disadvantage to me. Talking about applets I saw "Add to Panel" but haven't saw such about language. I've added many but don't know how to remove them (3). I've read it's in GNOME Shell but is it even possible to add it to the panel in Flashback? However, then I went to Region & Language in System Settings and saw the shortcuts, tried them - nothing happening (4) even when I'd change them. So I changed their position in the menu - the first being Bulgarian, nothing again. I guessed I should restart and it wasn't possible to log in anymore (5) (only as guest) because now the input method is BG but my pass is in EN. I saw that's the case on the on-screen keyboard. Cannot change it again. I've heard the cause of such language problem is IBus but since I cannot change it as guest I will reinstall the OS. However, I'll appreciate any info how to fix those problems.
I also have a question about partitioning. I have 500GB HDD which Trisquel partitioned by default like this: 20GB Ext4 for the system, 13GB swap and the left - XFS for the user. The small system and the huge swap space (my RAM is 4GB) seem odd aren't they? I think to partition it myself in the installing process, giving system at least 50GB and 4GB for Swap (I've read Swap=RAM is wise). I guess the default file systems are optimal for Trisquel, so I should not change them, right? Could you provide me with documentation about manual partitioning so I won't mess it up.
I guess the Live system does not include localization files for Bulgarian (only the installer is localized) and the relevant files must be downloaded through "Language support" (or something similar) in the "System settings" window of the newly installed system.
You need not reinstall but that may be the quicker way if you have not spent much time configuring, installing new programs, etc. You could also discover GRUB's password (the user is named "grub") from a live system: just read the file /etc/grub.d/01_PASSWORD on the root partition of the installed system. With this piece of information, you can then reboot (without the live system plugged) enter GRUB's configuration, edit the boot line to pass the "single" keyword among Linux's options, directly get a root terminal from which you can execute 'passwd user', where "user" is the login of the user you want the password modified. One more reboot and you can log in the system with that user (and his new password).
To manually partition your drive, choose the last option (maybe called "Something else") when the graphical installer asks you if Trisquel should take the whole disk, etc. You can then erase existing partitions, create new ones (with the types of filesystem of your choice) and decide what directory (/, /home, etc.) will be on it. You obviously need a root partition (i.e., mounted at /) to proceed. Nothing is mounted on a swap partition. 4 GB of swap probably is enough. The swap is not only used when the RAM is fulled but also when hibernating the system. In that latter case, the whole content of the RAM is dumped to the disk (I guess it is zipped first though) and that is why users who want to hibernate any non-swapping system want as much swap as they have RAM.
As for the chosen types of filesystems, Trisquel defaults to ext4 for the system (a very well tested type of filesystem) and XFS for /home. XFS is said to be particularly efficient to manage large files such as the user files (1 MB is large). It has a significant drawback though: it cannot be shrunk. But since you plan to use 50 GB for the system, you should be safe: the system will not need to take space over /home. If you feel a little adventurous, you could try Btrfs, a modern and efficient type of filesystem with many features. It is still said "experimental" in the kernel but many users have been using it for years now.
Thank you for the answer!
While I've managed to partition the HDD as I want during the pre-installation of Trisquel I still cannot write in Bulgarian. I've chosen English for both the system and writhing. In the freshly installed OS I tried to add BG language support. All I get is BG translation after restart. I've opted out the IBus. In Region and Language section input devices/methods I have both EN-US and BG (in that order) and in System the setting are as follows:
Your settings
Menus: BG
Input: EN-US,
BG
Format: BG
System settings
Menus: EN (US)
Input: EN-US
Format: BG
So during the installation I chose BG format. Maybe thats the problem. However, I guess that the input languages are OK but for whatever reason I cannot switch them. Is the possible and how to add input language applet in the GNOME Panel (Flashback) in Trisquel 7 or not?
In Region and Language section input devices/methods I have both EN-US and BG (in that order)
Change that order (with the two "arrow" buttons). The first one is the default layout. As for switching between layouts, see what Mampir writes. My default layout is French and I have no problem switching to my second option (Brazilian Portuguese)... but I use GNOME Shell, like Mampir.
The problem isn't with the Bulgarian localization or anything like that, but only with switching of keyboard layouts. In fact, I installed Trisquel 7 mini with a Bulgarian layout several weeks ago, and I use Trisquel 7 (non-mini) with a Bulgarian layout on my computer. :)
We already had a discussion about this issue here:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-7-keyboard-indicator#comment-55540
* Trisquel 7 (default)
On my computer, I wasn't able to do set it properly no matter what I tried. The system settings for layouts and the setting for a layout switching shortcuts didn't do anything. Ultimately I dealt with all the issues by installing GNOME Shell.
But in the default installation, you can use 'ibus-setup' (from a terminal) to set a layout switch keys and to add a layout applet on the panel. But the layout applet doesn't show the current layout, just a keyboard icon. Also, the 'ibus-setup' program has a very awkward interface.
The reason for all those problems is that when GNOME officially switched to GNOME Shell, the older stuff were left badly maintained. Maybe things are better in newer version.
* Trisquel 7 mini
Trisquel mini has similar issues. I wasn't able to set a shortcut key for switching the layout, but at least the switcher did show the current layout. Maybe 'ibus-setup' could work for setting a keyboard switch shortcut, but I forgot how to work with the awkward interface.
The person who is using the computer didn't care about using a shortcut key, so I left it like this.
* Installing GNOME Shell
You can install GNOME Shell with:
sudo aptitude -R install gnome-shell
At first I had problems with logging in the GNOME session, so I installing GDM. Later I found I had to use "System Defaults" session rather than "GNOME session", otherwise it would only load a blank desktop and a lone mouse cursor.
Maybe you don't need GDM, but if you do, you can install it with:
sudo aptitude install gdm
Thank you for the answer! I'll try these options to see which is the best for me. About the P.S. - I has been wondering for some time now if any kind of Libre organization exist here in BG and I am really happy to see here is such and the events coming. I'll come to at least one course so see you there.
PS: mokavey, if you are from Sofia you may want to come to some of the events I'm doing here. I'm preparing to do a 3-day course about GNU in several weeks. It will include how install and use Trisquel (and why). Also, if you want to learn GNU Emacs or other stuff, there's that too.
See http://bg.libtec.org/ and you can follow the news there. Keep in mind that I'm still preparing the site for the events and it's not really public yet. :)
Try editing the panel by "OK, now I know that I have to press Alt button when I right clicking on the panel. smile". Is the language applet thingie there to be added (note: by doing the same thing as what I linked to I think you can remove applets as well)?
Thanks but I don't see the language applet, that's the problem.
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