Future of GPUs
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Do we have any hope for libre friendly GPUs in the near future ? I keep thinking that even if I could afford something like a Talos II that if I wanted to stay libre I would have to pair it with a GTX 780 Ti using Nouveau and that seems like such a waste of money for any GPU heavy task. I have a GTX 780 Ti using Nouveau and it can't even play Super Tux Kart maxed out. Hoping for some news I hadn't come across. I am aware of Libre-SOC but that seems a ways off from being a reality. ARM and RISC-V devices have GPUs that make the 780 Ti on Nouveau seem powerful in comparison.
But it can play Super Tux Kart when it's not "maxed out"? Sometimes we don't have the luxury of technical superiority; this may be one of those times where it's necessary to give up a little in terms of resolution or frame rate or whatever of a game for software freedom.
That is a very low price for your freedom, I recommend participate in more sacrifice like that or biggers, becouse freedom have the most high value.
Given that neither of you actually answered the initial question of whether there were any libre friendly GPUs on the horizon I'm going to assume the answer is no.
You didn't pick up on my message? It sounds like you already ***have*** one, if you "just" need to live within certain resolutions or frame rates or whatever (not playing Super Tux Kart all "maxed out", but at a lower setting.) Sometimes this is the choice we must make.
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Meanwhile, consider upgrading to a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650. It's the latest that works with 3D acceleration:
https://h-node.org/videocards/view/en/2260/NVIDIA-Corporation-TU117--GeForce-GTX-1650
"Meanwhile, consider upgrading to a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650. It's the latest that works with 3D acceleration:
https://h-node.org/videocards/view/en/2260/NVIDIA-Corporation-TU117--GeForce-GTX-1650"
I have little to no faith in H-Node for GPUs. You can find people saying the RX 580 and RX 590 work with 3D on the Libre kernel but I have had those GPUs and know that to be a pile of lies. I'm not about to drop $300 on a GPU to have to pay a 15% restocking fee if H-Node is wrong.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/xipwjf/nouveau_doesnt_start_on_gtx_1650/
https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/FeatureMatrix.html
Also from what I'm reading the GTX 1650 is less powerful than the 780 Ti so even if it does work it's likely I get even worse results with it.
Oh! I used to think that web was a reliable source regarding hardware running free software.
Sorry for wasting your time. It's really disheartening...
"Oh! I used to think that web was a reliable source regarding hardware running free software.
Sorry for wasting your time. It's really disheartening..."
I find it great for everything except GPUs to be fair.
I am a translator!
I know nothing about GPUs but I recently saw some chat on #parabola on libera.chat asking about Radeon RX580.
There is an unsolved issue about it https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/2816 so apparently it does not work.
On the chat, it was mentioned that the RX 570 could be the most powerful GPU that is supported but it was perhaps not up-to-date information so it was suggested to try asking on #libreplanet, #radeon, #intel-gfx. For the two last, I am not sure whether it would be on libera or on OFTC.
The nick of the interested user is penaiple (sometimes with [m] suffix).
If it's any consolation, I have a Dell Latitude 5520 with the Intel Iris XE GPU and Super Tux Kart runs beautifully at 1900X1080.
I run Trisquel 11 on this device.
Hope that helps
grimlok
"If it's any consolation, I have a Dell Latitude 5520 with the Intel Iris XE GPU and Super Tux Kart runs beautifully at 1900X1080.
I run Trisquel 11 on this device.
Hope that helps
grimlok"
That does help considering System76 offers laptops that use Iris XE and offer Coreboot which I am interested in. I know their system would run Trisquel with exception to possibly the wireless. What settings do you use for Super Tux Kart at 1080 ?
When I wrote that post I used the default settings, but I have just tried it with all effects on and everything on high and it still runs well.
I can't tell you specific fps, because I am unsure how to enable that in STK.
This was done also while running 3 monitors of varying resolutions. (1920x1080, 1660x1050, and 1024x768)
grimlok
"When I wrote that post I used the default settings, but I have just tried it with all effects on and everything on high and it still runs well.
I can't tell you specific fps, because I am unsure how to enable that in STK.
This was done also while running 3 monitors of varying resolutions. (1920x1080, 1660x1050, and 1024x768)
grimlok"
Not that I expect you to go back and check but so you know for the future you can enable the option to display the framerate in STK by going into Options>Interface and checking the "Display FPS" box. It will then display the min/avg/max framerate at the top middle of the screen. Thanks for trying it at max details. Trisquel 11 is already a good step forward since it uses a newer Mesa than 10. I have seen increased frame rates on my GTX 780 Ti on Nouveau as well as my Intel HD 4600. The 780 Ti went from a Min/Max of 12/84 to 66/92 on lowest settings at 1080P going from Trisquel 10.0.1 to Trisquel 11. Going to try my Intel HD 530 sometime soon as well as seeing if that one works with the Vulkan beta for STK.
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