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Enviado por Tony_S el Lun, 12/30/2013 - 22:44.

Making the switch from Ubuntu

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Lun, 12/30/2013 - 22:44
Tony_S
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I am presently running ubuntu 13.10 on my toshiba laptop, which I use mostly as a desktop. I installed Trisquel on an older laptop just to get a look at it and see how it ran. And it was an easy change and it's working great.

I know no one likes to associate Trisquel with ubuntu but after seeing it run it feels very similar, to me. What are the big differences? And why is mentioning Ubuntu so taboo?

I do know about the DASH, amazon in search results thing, which I switched off. What else am missing??

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Lun, 12/30/2013 - 23:03
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Most of the big differences are philisophical. There are technical differences but most of them relate to the philosophy or free software. Ubuntu is not as strict about non-free software as Trisquel is. Ubuntu provides a non-free (multiverse) repository and has no policy as far as I'm aware on if software recomends other non-free software or add-ons. Trisquel follows the guidelines for free distros meaning all software included in Trisquel must be free and must not recommend to the users to install non-free software. So for example lets say you have a browser on ubuntu. If you go to a website that uses flash video it may encourage the user to install the non-free adobe flash software. For that program to be included in Trisquel it would require modification so it either did not recommened non-free software at all or recommended a free alternative like gnash.

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Mar, 12/31/2013 - 00:42
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SirGrant said:
> So for example lets say you have a browser on ubuntu. If you go to a website
> that uses flash video it may encourage the user to install the non-free adobe
> flash software.

That's not an example, this is something web pages do, not something Firefox does. Abrowser doesn't try to do anything about it, and I think this is outside the scope of what Abrowser is supposed to do.

Abrowser does do something about this, sort of, but it's a bad way of doing things: Gnash is installed by default, which makes many websites wrongly think their Flash code will work on your computer, breaking some websites that have HTML5 fallback. (I think the reason for Gnash being installed by default is something else, but either way, it's a bad design choice.)

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Mar, 12/31/2013 - 18:46
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Do you recommend then uninstalling Gnash?

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Mar, 12/31/2013 - 19:15
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Not uninstalling necessarily, since it's a part of a major meta-package, but disable it in Abrowser. You can do that in Tools->Add-ons (or just Abrowser->Add-ons if you have the menu bar disabled).

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Mié, 01/01/2014 - 17:52
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Thanks for the reply.

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Lun, 12/30/2013 - 23:25
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Oh, OK. Yes that makes sense.

Thanks for the response.

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Mar, 12/31/2013 - 13:35
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Another big difference is that Trisquel uses Linux-libre, whereas Ubuntu has many blobs in its kernels.

You may want to know how Trisquel is made: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-trisquel-made

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Mar, 12/31/2013 - 22:54
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I left gnash in place, since it is part of a big meta-package, and removing it sounded scary; LOL. Best to disable the gnash plugin in abrowser, and use an extension like youtube-all-html5 and/or unplug, to grab multi-media content.

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Vie, 01/03/2014 - 12:16
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>

What else am missing??

1.It's problematic to change default search engine (DuckDuckGo).

2.It's almost impossible to uninstall DuckDuckGo package.

3.Forget about getting help with proprietary software from the community.

4.Documentation(manuals,FAQ, etc) was edited to get rid of any mention of any proprietary software.

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Vie, 01/03/2014 - 13:49
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Did you reply to a wrong thread or something?

>1.It's problematic to change default search engine (DuckDuckGo).

What do you mean?

>2.It's almost impossible to uninstall DuckDuckGo package.

No, it's impossible as there is no such package...

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Vie, 01/03/2014 - 14:05
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В 12:15 +0100 на 03.01.2014 (пт), name at domain написа:

> 1.It's problematic to change default search engine (DuckDuckGo).

Select a search engine at the top-right dedicated search engine
field. Your are done. Type in the address bar or at the dedicated
search field. Install a Abrowser search extension if necessary.

Advanced mode (does the same) Visit "about:config". Type
"browser.search" in the search field. Set
"browser.search.selectedEngine" to the label of installed search
extension.

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Vie, 01/03/2014 - 16:12
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Yes, I know. But, there is a problem. After restart these settings will be overridden by default.

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Vie, 01/03/2014 - 16:25
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В 16:12 +0100 на 03.01.2014 (пт), aaz893@ написа:
> After restart these settings will be overridden by default.

I can't confirm that. I've tested with a new profile (abrowser
--ProfileManager). The only way to duplicate this is to kill the
browser (kill, killall, Ctrl+C if ran from terminal).

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Vie, 01/03/2014 - 16:08
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1.When I installed Trisquel, I couldn't figure out how to change default search engine without lost of Trisquel's customizations.

2. It is xul-ext-ubufox. Because this package sets DuckDuckGo as default search engine.

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