Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

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Fernando_Negro
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se unió: 06/17/2012

Here's one that is just a curiosity about this distro's parent distro...

(And, perhaps, also an interesting fact, to take into consideration, when noticing how much Ubuntu is deviating people from the true principles, and ideals, of Free Software - https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-60-review-distrowatch-weekly#comment-37021 + https://trisquel.info/en/forum/rms-tells-it-it-about-ubuntu.)

If you ever get to see any footage made inside masonic temples, one symbol you'll most probably see there, is one of an eye inside a triangle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLwCzhmKjdM#t=3m27s. Which can also be seen in several corporate logos, either in its original form - http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/logo/aol-34 - or, sometimes, taking the form of a simple eye (or small circle) inside a (larger) circle (or ellipse) - http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/logo/cbs + http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/logo/storex.

But, have you ever noticed that, when "connecting the dots", such a symbol can also be taken from Ubuntu's logo?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nzdNSZCll4k/UcBj0r0AyYI/AAAAAAAAAzQ/wfjlwVA2QsE/s1600/ubuntu_occult.png

I just thought it would be something interesting to share in here... ;)

teodorescup

I am a member!

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se unió: 01/04/2011

Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning “can’t install Debian”.

Also, in case you were wondering about the image,
look here.

Darksoul71
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se unió: 01/04/2012

I always thought that Ubuntu was African for "Slackware is too hard for you" ?

Just kiddin :P

@Fernando_Negro: I guess you can always find something symbolic / demonic in pretty much any kind of symbol / logo if you simply look hard enough :)

Fernando_Negro
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se unió: 06/17/2012

Maybe true, for some of them...

The thing is that the sheer amount of "triangles" and "one eye" symbols, in many corporations' logos and publicity, seems (to me) to be too big, to be all just a coincidence.

(Another "tech-related" example, from a cell phone company advertisement: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sqr7K_Gbic8/T4pP8gEDmuI/AAAAAAAAAUs/us7KERjDROs/s1600/anuncio.png)

And, the kind of suspicions I'm talking about, usually end up being confirmed by (credible) people with sources in intelligence agencies - http://www.danielestulin.com/2011/11/16/tavistock-el-poder-de-una-imagen-i-parte/.

Anyway...

I knew this would be too esoteric for those not aware of what's going on in the backstage of Western corporate power and politics.

(And, I'm sorry if this is not a thread worthy of this forum...)

Like I said, it was just a curiosity I thought people, in here, might be interested to know about.

onpon4
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se unió: 05/30/2012

Triangles and circles (or "eyes") existing doesn't mean it's tied to a "new world order" or "illuminati".

By the way, that symbol you think is some conspiracy symbol is the Eye of Providence,[1] or the eye of God. I don't get why you think it's such a big deal; nobody cares about it. It's just part of the U.S. seal.

But the actual meaning of the seal, if you read about it, is: the unfinished pyramid has 13 steps, each step representing one of the initial 13 states. "1776" (the year the Declaration of Independence was signed) appears in Roman numerals at the bottom, and the Eye of Providence is above. "Annuit Cœptis"[2], meaning "He approves of our undertakings", appears above, and "Novus Ordo Seclorum"[3], meaning "New order of the ages", appears below. The meaning is not that difficult to get: the "new order of the ages" is the "new" (at the time) United States, no longer ruled by the British Empire, which is said to be approved by God himself. The pyramid is of course unfinished because it was just the beginning of the United States.

Claiming to know about a conspiracy that is mere conjecture, or worse, a mere feeling, is bullshit. You need to do a proper investigation and collect actual evidence. If there's no evidence, I suppose I can't stop you from believing that the absence of evidence is because of a conspiracy to hide the evidence, but at that point, your conspiracy "theory" is not falsifiable. You could say anything with that logic: "free software is a conspiracy to secretly brainwash us all and turn us all into a Communist country like North Korea", for example. "Oh, there's no evidence for it because the Free Software Foundation covers it up." See how easy that is? Taking that kind of logic seriously is a horrible mistake.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annuit_c%C5%93ptis
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_ordo_seclorum

Fernando_Negro
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se unió: 06/17/2012

I have answers (and a lot of them) to everything you just said (and even what you might think of saying, about this)...

But, because this is not the place to discuss such issues, I will only talk about what relates to Ubuntu.

The symbol you talk about (and which I suspect might have been an inspiration source for Ubuntu's logo) is not "just part of the U.S. seal".

It is present, for example, in Portuguese masonic temples[1], in a former insignia of one of the UK's intelligence agencies[2], and in the French "Declaration of Human Rights", presented after the French Revolution[3].

So, it's not an American symbol.

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1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLwCzhmKjdM#t=3m27s
2. http://www.bilderberg.org/sis.htm
3. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_of_the_Citizen_in_1789.jpg

onpon4
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se unió: 05/30/2012

Are you selectively reading? I already said that I know what that symbol is: it's Eye of Providence, which represents the watchful eye of God (which is kind of a creepy concept, but that's religion for you). In the seal, it represents God's approval of the American revolution. If you actually research it rather than assuming that it's a symbol of some sort of cult, you can probably find out what it actually symbolizes in those instances just as easily as I found out what it symbolizes in the U.S. seal (it took maybe 15 minutes of reading).

I never said that the Eye of Providence was an American symbol. I just said that nobody really cares about it and explained the meaning behind it and the rest of the back side of the U.S. seal.

But in any case, making twists and morphs to a symbol to make it look like another is not impressive. Again, this is relevant:

http://gobblin.se/u/onpon4/m/louis-giglio-sees-things-that-aren-t-there/

If you make the right twists and morphs, you could say the Trisquel logo sort of looks similar to a swastika. That doesn't mean Trisquel is part of a Nazi conspiracy.

Fernando_Negro
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se unió: 06/17/2012

I already know everything that you're talking about... So, that's why I didn't bother to check the links you posted.

I read that such symbol was "just part of the U.S. seal", which I understood as: that was all that it was. But, checking your links, now, I see that you read the explanation on Wikipedia, in which it is explained its use beyond, and prior to, the U.S. seal.

Wikipedia might be a good starting point for more "mundane" issues. But, it's definitely not as good for esoteric ones. For which, one has to know the good, serious and (provenly) credible authors. And, that is not something one can manage to do in just a few minutes.

onpon4
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se unió: 05/30/2012

I'm not sure what you mean by "esoteric", because any of its meanings could work here. I'm assuming you mean that it's confidential; please correct me if this assumption is wrong.

I don't agree that this issue is "esoteric". You made a vague claim that, because you can sort of make a few changes to the Ubuntu logo to make it sort of seem like the Eye of Providence, that therefore suggests that Ubuntu is part of some massive cult involving several corporations. I can only infer that you're talking about the so-called "illuminati" or "new world order", but it doesn't really matter what you call it or what exactly it is, because in any case, it's a conjectural conspiracy which has absolutely no evidence to support it.

It's already been pointed out what the Ubuntu logo actually might symbolize: people joining together. It looks like a group of people joining together in a circle. I take that with a grain of salt because as far as I know it's just someone noticing that it kind of looks like that (no more evidence than your claim), but that is *far* more plausible than "let's make a triangle shape and put some random gibberish around it, then take out the triangle, to secretly symbolize a massive conspiracy for some reason".

That's another thing. If a conspiracy is secret, why would you expect them to leave "clues" to find out about the conspiracy? Corporations that conspire to fix prices don't leave clues about their price-fixing. That would be asinine.

Fernando_Negro
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se unió: 06/17/2012

I don't make any changes in Ubuntu's logo... I only "connect the dots" in it (and, observe the results).

By "esoteric", I meant, "understood by only a particular group" or "known by a restricted number of people".

Since, I know that very few people know about this kind of stuff. (The real one, that is - and not all the disinformation that is all over the web.)

The "clues" that such people leave, are "signatures" only meant to be understood by those who are part of such conspiracy.

(And, that's why most people don't see them, or don't get it...)

onpon4
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se unió: 05/30/2012

Oh, so by "esoteric", you mean to say that you know the truth, and everyone else doesn't. Sorry, but that's pretentious, especially when there isn't any evidence for your position.

onpon4
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se unió: 05/30/2012

"Connecting the dots" is a modification, a distortion. The Ubuntu logo doesn't have the "dots" connected. Have you watched this video that I've linked to?

http://gobblin.se/u/onpon4/m/louis-giglio-sees-things-that-aren-t-there/

You're seeing something that just isn't there.

onpon4
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se unió: 05/30/2012
kernelKurtz
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se unió: 03/12/2013

If Mark actually were an evil occultist with a hidden agenda ...

I'd probably like him better than I do.

: )

Fernando_Negro
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se unió: 06/17/2012

Aerial photograph of the UK's Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), that recently was revealed to be connected to the PRISM surveillance network:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Columnist/Columnists/2013/6/22/1371917215634/NEW-GCHQ-GOVERNMENT-COMMU-010.jpg