Open Source (as opposed to Free/Libre) OS exemple

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Lugodunos
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se unió: 05/28/2022

We should always be suspicious when one speaks about “open source”.
I discover this “Linux OS”: Clear Linux* OS.
Of course in the “open source” world the negation of GNU is a must…
It is developed by non the less then Intel Corporation as we can see in the footer copyright note of each page of there website followed by the explanation of the asterisk in the name (and that appear with unreadable white on light grey background that you have to select to render readable, at least in TOR with dark mode and no script enabled, is it on purpose? I doubt it, it's just rare to have a website well done nowadays):
© 2023 Intel Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
*Other names and brands may be claimed as the property of others.
Of course, it focuses on “security”, that certainly hide the fact that the main concern is how to make disappear any possibility of privacy also outside of proprietary software, in the not-really free/Libre but “open source” world (a brave new world?).

andyprough
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se unió: 02/12/2015

>"Of course, it focuses on “security”

I've never heard that Clear was built with security in mind, it's just built for maximum speed. It's won every benchmarking contest on the Phoronix website for about 6-7 years straight now, and usually wins by a wide margin. It is built with special kernel optimizations and compilation optimizations that other distros do not use. It's also a bit of a mess in terms of getting software to work, and is not recommended for desktop use by its developers. Almost no one uses it for anything other than testing, including Intel engineers. It's really just a "concept" distro.

prospero
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se unió: 05/20/2022

Yeah, clearly it lacks an ecosystem.

Hyperbola GNU/kFreeBSD-libre, meanwhile, has been making steady progress. I am impressed, albeit not really surprised. I also intend to try Dragora now that version 3 beta 2 is out, that Trinity DE is calling for a try.

andyprough
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se unió: 02/12/2015

>"Yeah, clearly it lacks an ecosystem."

The FSF's definition of "ecosystem" sounds a whole lot like it was written from a perspective of Stallman-ish socialist "progressivism".

Which - while admirable - falls far short of the glorious socialist philosophy set forth by Chairman Mao in "Ten Major Relationships" and "On the Correct Handling of Contradictions Among the People". Too much bourgeoisie, not enough revolution.

>"Hyperbola GNU/kFreeBSD-libre, meanwhile, has been making steady progress."

Where would a person track this progress? I don't see an obvious place on their main website.

prospero
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se unió: 05/20/2022

I just visited there, and noticed the many "DONE" and "IN PROGRESS" lines:

https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:manual:contrib:hyperbola_roadmap#hyperbolabsd_canis_major_v099x-alpha

Last time I checked, that was still a full "TO-DO" list. I have always liked roadmaps and checklists.

The naming is explained in details in points 7 and 8 there: https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:project:social_contract

Lugodunos
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se unió: 05/28/2022

So, Hyperbola GNU/kFreeBSD-libre = HyperbolaBSD that would come from Debian GNU/kFreeBSD (I suppose) and that is linked by dormant LybertyBSD.

prospero
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se unió: 05/20/2022

> Debian

Not quite: Hyperbola is based on Arch, so this is a completely different project to whatever Debian GNU/kFreeBSD was about.

Also, note the "libre" in "Hyperbola GNU/kFreeBSD-libre". Hyperbola is, and intends to remain, an FSDG compliant system.

HyperbolaBSD is indeed short for Hyperbola GNU/k*BSD-libre, as opposed to the current Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre. In fact, it looks like it is most probably going to be based on a hard fork of the OpenBSD kernel, which would make it Hyperbola GNU/kOpenBSD-libre.

andyprough
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se unió: 02/12/2015

That's some serious progress, today they are finished with the step "Build and test the ported BSD kernel". This is getting exciting, maybe there will be an alpha version we can try before too many more months.

Lugodunos
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se unió: 05/28/2022

Oh “bourgeois” and it's derivatives has been borrowed from French by English, of course, in it's marxist's sens as bourgeois basically means: “resident of a bourg”, “bourg” coming from Latin “burgus” (that might come itself from some proto-germanic) that is a fortified village. Then “bourgeois” has been turned into the nowadays abstract sens by marxists (or maybe Marx himself or Hegel himself, I don't know).
I must be too conservative (and so not revolutionary), I don't like the nowadays sens of that word in French (and so in English too).

Lugodunos
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se unió: 05/28/2022

They sale it in there website as being done by focusing on security.

eric23
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se unió: 06/30/2017

"Of course in the “open source” world the negation of GNU is a must…"

I disagree with this. I found the author Glynn Moody does use the terms Open Source and GNU/Linux often.

https://www.linuxjournal.com/users/glyn-moody

Lugodunos
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se unió: 05/28/2022

As we say in French: “c'est l'exception qui confirme la règle” that is translated in German by: “keine Regel ohne Ausnahme” or (and that looks like being more used as there's an entry in the German wiktionary): “Ausnahmen bestätigen die Regel” and in Russian: “это исключение подтверждает правило” (and sorry, no translation in English).