Safety of CommunityCube

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vixxo
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se unió: 10/26/2013

Hi guys, I've recently found this nice piece of hardware claims to use all FOSS and to be OpenHardware.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/communitycube-the-nsa-hates-us#/story
https://www.communitycube.net/ (official websiste)

and this is the distribution It's running with informations about technology It uses

https://www.cageos.org/

I find this solution very interesting, in particular for the nice decentralized cloud, with high level of encryption but I'm a little bit worried about the safety (for example guys from the guardian project suggest not to download through tor, the risk of MIM attack and so on..).
What do you think ?

Thank you all

JadedCtrl
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se unió: 08/11/2014

There have been fifty-bazillion of these freaking little turn-on-and-done cube servers on KickStarter over the past few months, and all of them have some non-free components, or some iffy areas.

TL;DR You're better off using your desktop as a server.

vixxo
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se unió: 10/26/2013

I'm quite sure that the server I could self-made will have much more non-free components than this one. JadedCtrl have you checked or are you talking generically about these kind of projects ? Because It will be bad to judge something that could be the freest thing we could have for now, without evaluating deeply.

JadedCtrl
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se unió: 08/11/2014

I was speaking in general.
9 times out of 10 if a hardware project says it's "completely open" or "fully FOSS," it's just open-washing.
Turns out that guess was right, though, according to Chris'es comment.

Chris

I am a member!

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se unió: 04/23/2011

"Community Cube uses the boards ODROID-XU3 Lite from Hardkernel, which is 99% open, and you can run any Linux based operating system on it. " and "which is 99% open".

I think that speaks for itself. No, it's not "open" / free. It's dependent on proprietary bits (I believe a bootloader in this case at a minimum). They *could* have gone with a board that didn't depend on non-free bits like the Banana Pi or the Cubieboard or maybe even the Beagle Bone Black (? uncertain about this one although I know its being used by certain free software people ?). They didn't.

Most of these projects aren't providing enough technical details to even begin evaluating them. Short of spending a lot of time investigating I'd have to say this campaign is a no-go.

Right now I'm more interested in projects like Maidsafe which is a project to develop a distributed decentralized [bit]coin fuelled storage system. The other interesting project I've come across is Mailpile (it has GPG integrated). There is also another hardware venture that is attempting to do something similar to a project we're working on. Ultimately they seem to have it well thought out (freedom wise), but it's a year or more off. I think we can get something out the door sooner with current hardware. The price point though they are shooting for is probably going to be a bit lower if they're campaign works out- which should be a good thing. Most people won't spent $10 let alone $100.

Sometimes competition is a good thing and other times it just gets in the way. If your audience isn't large enough or both/all parties are focusing on the same audience it can be a drag on actually making progress.

JadedCtrl
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se unió: 08/11/2014

Either they don't understand how US currency works or they missed a few zeroes to make the numbers thousands...
And unvaluable should be *invaluable...

cubecommunity.jpg
moxalt
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se unió: 06/19/2015

Actually unvaluable should just be 'not valuable' or something along those
lines. 'Invaluable' means the same thing as valuable (although with a meaning
more along the lines of 'indispensable'), in the same way that inflammable
means the same thing as flammable.

JadedCtrl
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se unió: 08/11/2014

The infographic is trying to say that "Files & docs" are priceless, not that they're worthless.

tomlukeywood
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se unió: 12/05/2014

is there a source on this image?

JadedCtrl
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se unió: 08/11/2014
tomlukeywood
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se unió: 12/05/2014

i should of said is there a source for the data on the image?

vixxo
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se unió: 10/26/2013

https://github.com/CommunityCube/debian-autoscript but I haven't checked deeply.

Ops: I thought you was aiming to the source code :P