Video/Audio format tipp for saving Vhs Videos and sd (pal) TV

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Larissa

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Hello we are saving vhs and sd Tv. I wanted to ask what converter tool (should keep original resolution) and what format I should choose.
There are two requirements.

1. The tool must be easy to use, my parents aren’t that good in using a computer.
2. That tool must be windows compatible, I can´t find a way for getting the tv cards running, and the chinch to usb converter isn´t Linux compatible.

Larissa

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se unió: 07/12/2014

The software would need to convert Mpeg2 and ts files (optionally h.246) in a better compression ratio.

Calinou
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se unió: 03/08/2014

Use Handbrake, it is libre and cross-platform.

GNUser
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se unió: 07/17/2013

Use virtualdub. Runs on windows, has lots of filters you can use and is very easy to use.
This is what me and my father used a couple years ago to do that exact same thing: get vhs into computer and save as AVI files.
You will need to find a tutorial on the web, but the software is very intuitive to use (my father is not very computer savvy and yet he was able to do it on his own).
You will need and Xvid codec to encode the files. But it is very easy to use.

ADFENO
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se unió: 12/31/2012

Well, I don't know much about VirtualDub, but I recommend Handbrake.

GNUser
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Why?
They need a user friendly way to do it, and handbrake is not what I consider user friendly. At least not compared to VirtualDub. You can basically do it with a couple of mouse clicks. And besides it runs very well in windows, having multiple "forks" for all needs. AND it's filters were simply A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!! It's the one software piece I miss from windows. GNU/Linux is amazing but it could use a tool like VirtualDub.

Sorry for the virtualdub-fanboy moment :P

ADFENO
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se unió: 12/31/2012

Hm... Well, I don't know that much about VirtualDub because there's no
proof that it's actually free software. I have checked the Free Software
Directory, Trisquel's repository (using the on-line search and the
package manager), and Parabola's repository (using the on-line search),
but I couldn't find it.

GNUser
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se unió: 07/17/2013

Hum... maybe because it doesn't run in linux, so it would never be on linux distros repos...?
http://www.virtualdub.org/
read the first line, GNU-GPL licensed.

ADFENO
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se unió: 12/31/2012

Sorry, but the license for just one software doesn't really prove
anything because the software could depend/recommend/suggest non-free
software, or even worse: have some obfuscated source code.

GNUser
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se unió: 07/17/2013

Well, this software is written to run on windows, it uses the OS own way of dealing with video to work. So, it depends on windows to work. Does that make the software non-free? I don't think so. If I am writing a software and share the source code, with a license that gives you the right to:

run the program;
share the program;
change the program;
share the changed program;

it is a free software, and the OS where it runs is irrelevant. If someone wants to change the software to run on another OS, he can because the software is free. For example, for a long time I used ONLY FLOSS programs in windows XP (later 7). I was not computing in freedom, but those programs were indeed free.

I agree with you in the obfuscated code thing. IF it happens is a dangerous thing, and a malevolent action. However I don't know of any indication of that in this program. Of course I can't be sure.

ADFENO
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se unió: 12/31/2012

Well then, we must send it to be reviewed. Tomorrow I'm filling the
submission form. :D

Hope for the best! :D

Better yet: hope for the entry, once approved doesn't get remove due to
a late discovery that it wouldn't be free software. :D

GNUser
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se unió: 07/17/2013

It can't be included in Trisquel ADFENO, like I said... VirtualDub only runs on Windows! It won't work in GNU/Linux. It's the way the program works. You can have it in the repos, but it simply will not work.

ADFENO
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se unió: 12/31/2012

Well...

I'm not judging whether it's free software or not based on which
operating system it's compatible with.

Anyway, we have two options here:

* Consider VirtualDub as non-free software and stop recommending it, not
because of the license, but because it depends on non-free software, and
because it is not a reverse engineering effort of the very same
dependency, and is not an effort to replace the very same dependency too.

* Wait for the review of VirtualDub, and that way, since we need to wait
for the review, we can't really recommend some software that we don't
know whether it's free or not.

Iru Cai
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se unió: 11/07/2015

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 3:39 AM, <name at domain> wrote:

> Why?
> They need a user friendly way to do it, and handbrake is not what I
> consider user friendly. At least not compared to VirtualDub. You can
> basically do it with a couple of mouse

You can you avidemux, which has many features of VirtualDub and supports
more formats. More importantly, it runs on GNU/Linux.

> clicks. And besides it runs very well in windows, having multiple "forks"
> for all needs. AND it's filters were simply A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!! It's the one
> software piece I miss from windows. GNU/Linux is amazing but it could use a
> tool like VirtualDub.
>
>
> Sorry for the virtualdub-fanboy moment :P
>

onpon4
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se unió: 05/30/2012

> handbrake is not what I consider user friendly.

Really? I used Handbrake to rip every episode of Samurai Jack from the DVDs we have, and I found it to be very easy. At the very least, it was easy enough that the experience was uneventful. This was my first, and so far only, use of Handbrake.

I don't know anything about ripping from VHS (I assume you need some kind of special equipment?), but I'd imagine it would be largely the same process, wouldn't it? Maybe even easier since you don't have to deal with chapters and whatnot.

Larissa

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se unió: 07/12/2014

I have to look if handbrake can handle the ripping of the VHS, or if I have to use the vendor own software...

But the converting would be pretty much the same process. Could someone give me a format recommendation?

lloydsmart

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se unió: 12/22/2012

Err... please don't ask for Windows help on a Trisquel forum!

Unless your question is really "how do I get my video card running on Trisquel using libre drivers", it probably doesn't belong here.

GNUser
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se unió: 07/17/2013

Well, since he is asking for free software help, I don't think it's totally unwelcome.
Maybe the troll hole would be a better place, but still...

ADFENO
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Well... Denying to help a user of a non-free operating system, and
knowing that the user came here to seek some advice on what software he
should use to suit his needs, isn't really going to help the user to
reach the goal of a completely free computing. Instead, we should take
this moment to help him on using at least some free software, at least
for now, and also explain to him why free software is needed. Besides,
we must also tell him that if he needs further help or recommendation on
using free software, he's welcome to ask us for that.

ADFENO
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What we can't do, however, is suggest/recommend/teach/install non-free
software for the user.

For example, if he were to ask us how to make a desktop shortcut on
Windows, Fedora, OpenSUSE, SteamOS or whicever non-free operating system
there is (hypothetically assuming that all this operating systems would
be using some non-free desktop environment, which is not always the
case, but anyway), then we must ask him to look for support on the
appropriate community, and not here.

Larissa

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I said: "I can´t find a way for getting the tv cards running, and the chinch to usb converter isn´t Linux compatible."

I could try a Trisquel live DVD, but I don´t think, that it will work.
I know the importance, but not the hardware developer. Ok, for distributed computing I don´t see it as bad as in other parts, but its still bad.

I use non-free software only if needed or humanity/freesoftware profits from it.
I especially asked about the format to use, since h.264 isn´t really a free format, or at least the next version is non-free.

Larissa

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Sorry, I know, I personal use almost only free software. That hardware needs windows, because those developers can barley develop windows driver, they don´t even try Linux driver (since most of them run on kernel level, they doesn’t have to do with the gnu tools), let alone free one. I´m as sad about that as you. I could ask if the tv-card from think penguin supports the needed thing (dvb-c and or cinch input (for digitalising vhs). On the other hand I don´t like e-waste so I would like tips. Btw. I don´t know how my father will react (and do the exchange stealthy would be very hard). Exchanging the digitalising hardware and os would be really easy. Btw. the drivers for the digitalising hardware is very bad, I had to downgrade and use an old version of that proprietary OS.

I saw how important open standards are. I also saw how bad h.265 is, so I wanted to ask what format to use and what tool they should try, since "free video converter" (free as in free beer) is very easy but proprietary, buggy and limited.

If you want to look at what I try to do for free software look at the attachment and I also try to (slowly) make a more free Boinc version.

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Magic Banana

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se unió: 07/24/2010

I would go for Vorbis for the audio codec, VP8 for the video codec and WEBM for the container.