WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!

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nevermoreraven
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se unió: 10/15/2014

I think I am getting this error "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" because I was adding repositories to trisquel.

How do I get rid of the non free repositories. I want to keep videolan and handbrake. Libdvdcss2 and handbrake repo is gnu friendly right?

Here is a list of my trusted.gpg file.

apt-key list
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg
--------------------
pub 1024D/8D8AEBF1 2007-01-14
uid Trisquel GNU/Linux (Trisquel GNU/Linux signing key) <name at domain>
sub 2048g/ECBB0F64 2007-01-14

pub 2048R/B84288D9 2013-08-27
uid VideoLAN APT Signing Key <name at domain>
sub 2048R/288D4A2C 2013-08-27

pub 4096R/46D7E7CF 2009-05-15
uid GetDeb Archive Automatic Signing Key <name at domain>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/aheck-ppa.gpg
------------------------------------
pub 1024R/A5CCD09F 2009-05-05
uid Launchpad PPA for Andreas Heck

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/stebbins-handbrake-releases.gpg
------------------------------------------------------
pub 1024R/816950D8 2010-04-14
uid Launchpad HandBrake Snapshots

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ubuntukylin-archive-keyring.gpg
------------------------------------------------------
pub 4096R/5E1D3C58 2014-04-09
uid Ubuntu Kylin Archive Automatic Signing Key <name at domain>
sub 4096R/DF6E30B5 2014-04-09

SuperTramp83

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se unió: 10/31/2014

There is a fix but reinstalling the OS would be better, because it would take you more time and effort. Why do I want you to go for the long and difficult road of spending a couple of hours to backup, install and customize you OS? Because that way, I guess, there is a higher chance that you will NOT add non-free stuff to your computer in the future..

Respectfully
st83

strypey
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se unió: 05/14/2015

SuperTramp, with all due respect, I have to point out that this kind comment does damage to the cause of software freedom. Once you've been using GNU/Linux for a while, it's easy to forget, how unfamiliar and confusing everything about it is to the GNUbie. If they ask for help, and get patronised and sneered at by more experienced users, there is a real danger they will give up, and go back to Ubuntu, or worse Windows/ MacOSX.

If you can't support fellow users with genuinely helpful comments, please save your time and theirs, and say nothing.

lembas
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se unió: 05/13/2010

I believe SuperTramp had the best interests of the original poster in mind. It would be quite nasty to find out that some tool you've grown to use and think is free is actually proprietary.

onpon4
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se unió: 05/30/2012

I have to agree that that's not really the best way to respond. The implication in his post was that he knew of an easier way to fix the problem (and keep in mind, the problem is removing third-party software sources that the person asking suggests includes proprietary software), but was telling a harder way on purpose for negative reinforcement. Negative reinforcement has been shown to be ineffective, but even if it hadn't been, the suggestion sounds patronizing and unhelpful.

SuperTramp83

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se unió: 10/31/2014

no patronizing at all. I did not sneer. If one gives up that easy, he will give up no matter what.

I said it 1000 times and I'll repeat it here: one does not embrace libre software and become a free software enthusiast because he installed Trisquel or Parabola or whatever; rather they become libre when they decide they will NEVER, EVER and FOR NO REASON use and install a proprietary piece of software (firmware and drivers included).

Sometimes an easy fix is not a help. And giving the guy some work and some time and effort to spend can be the best way to make him appreciate what he has and to make him think twice before he goes down to the wrong path. It is my modest opinion that this is just the case.

humbly and respectfully
st83

moxalt
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se unió: 06/19/2015

This whole little snapback reaction to a supposed 'unfriendly' comment by
SuperTramp is missing the point a bit. The OP asked for some advice as to how
to unravel the tangled mess of proprietary repositories, packages, and GPG
errors that his system had become. st83 responded with what he saw to be the
easiest way out- a re-install, which, though time-consuming, would at least be
clean, completely free, and within the skillset of the OP. st83 offered a
perfectly friendly response- he gave OP the *easiest* solution- a
GNUbie-friendly one.

onpon4
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se unió: 05/30/2012

My problem with the post isn't the solution offered. It very well may be that it's the easiest or best solution. My objection is in SuperTramp implying that he knows a better way that he is refusing to tell for the sake of negative reinforcement:

"There is a fix but reinstalling the OS would be better, because it would take you more time and effort. Why do I want you to go for the long and difficult road of spending a couple of hours to backup, install and customize you OS? Because that way, I guess, there is a higher chance that you will NOT add non-free stuff to your computer in the future.."

Emphasis added.

Just imagine that you're asked by a friend to fix his car, and you tell him that you could easily do so, but that he should get a new car anyway because maybe the extra cost will encourage him to not break it again. You wouldn't be friends with him for very long with that kind of attitude.

SuperTramp83

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se unió: 10/31/2014

onpon: true! I knew the fix. True, in this particular case I'd rather send the OP through the "long and difficult road" because I am certain that is the best way to do. And I already explained why.

I find your "friend fixing a car" metaphor somehow inappropriate -> let's examine the terms of paragon.

A - Being that you installed proprietary software on your machine I won't give you the easy fix to get rid of it but I want you to understand that what you did is very wrong and in order for you to understand it well I want you to spend some time and effort so you can learn the value of a completely libre installation and hopefully not make the same mistake in the future.

B - Just imagine that you're asked by a friend to fix his car, and you tell him that you could easily do so, but that he should get a new car anyway because maybe the extra cost will encourage him to not break it again.

I fail to see how B can be compared to A.

I would have seen it if it was something like this:

B - Just imagine that you're asked by a friend to fix his car, and you tell him that you could easily do so, but that you don't want because he modified his car's engine so that it can run a little bit faster but at the same time cause three times more emissions.

cheers onpon!

strypey
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se unió: 05/14/2015

>> st83 offered a perfectly friendly response- he gave OP the *easiest* solution- a
GNUbie-friendly one. <<

Perhaps English is not your first language, but this was *not* what was happened. Read it again more carefully. In response to the OP, ST83 said:

>> There is a fix but reinstalling the OS would be better, because it would take you more time and effort. <<

It is patronising in the extreme for ST83 to presume that he has the right to give the OP homework - the long, slow, frustrating process of completely reinstalling and reconfiguring his system - instead of a) describing the quicker fix he says he knows or b) just shutting his yap and letting someone else help the OP. This is absolute the opposite of GNUbie-friendly.

SuperTramp83

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se unió: 10/31/2014

no need to be offensive strypey. If you don't like or understand my posts ignore them, just as I mostly ignore yours.

cooloutac
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se unió: 06/27/2015

I couldn't help but reply to this, I still find supertramp suspicious because the fact is he doesn't even use trisquel, Hes never used it for more then a few months. He uses debian and installs proprietary video drivers, And he promotes these things to people on the irc channel. He is a hypocrite, and I agree that was no way to reply to the OP. Its bad examples like his that make it hard for people to respect the free software movement.

moxalt
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se unió: 06/19/2015

> Its bad examples like yours that drive people away from the free software
> movement.

No. That would be the holier-than-thou attitude exhibited by people like you.

Welcome back, btw.

SuperTramp83

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I couldn't help but reply to this, I still find supertramp suspicious

glad to hear that :)

because the fact is he doesn't even use trisquel,

true. I use and like more for several reasons my Debian libre installation :)

Hes never used it for more then a few months.

It was my main setup form Trisquel 7 day one until May (5 months), yes. Trisquel was my first libre distro. It taught me how to use my computer in freedom without me even putting much effort into it, and for that I will always be grateful to the distro and to the Triskello community.
It is none of your trivial business, but in case you wonder why I keep posting and helping, if I can, on this forum (but use Debian) the reason is the already stated (appreciation and gratitude for Trisquel) and the fact that I respect and like many members of this community (except a few, except you especially, being that you are, my friend, with all due respect and in all honesty, stupid and not interesting at all).

He uses debian and installs proprietary video drivers, And he promotes these things to people on the irc channel.

Not true.. I recommend better pills.

He is a hypocrite,

This, coming from you, I will take it as a compliment. Thx.

and I agree that was no way to reply to the OP. Its bad examples like his that make it hard for people to respect the free software movement.

Oww, you disagree me post, eh?
I am searching the horizon right now.
For fucks to give..

adieu!

cooloutac
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se unió: 06/27/2015

You can keep calling me crazy all you want, but you just admitted it...

And the reason why I think the presence of non trisquel users like you is harmful to the free software movement, is because just like your attitude towards the op, you also drive away new users in the irc channel in the same manner, or by promoting other distros and non free drivers. I find it suspicious.

To hear you scold the op on the use of free software so vehemently and why he should be "punished", when you yourself don't even use trisquel and are using non free video drivers, and for no real valid reason, is outrageous to me. No way I could let that slide. I'm going to say something if noone else notices.

Whats "crazy" to me, is how you see nothing wrong with being so openly hypocritical.

cooloutac
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se unió: 06/27/2015

you admitted you don't even use trisquel.

And so i'm just psychic and knew you dont' even use trisquel, but am just imagining the fact you use non free video drivers? lmao.... keep lying dude... you told me that yourself. Calinou is another one. You also told me that trisquel is not popular enough for you which i found lame. If everyone has your mentality, it never will be as popular as other distros. People see that, since you have no shame in talking about it, and think if these guys don't even use trisquel or a 100% free distro, why should I. You don't help anything no matter how much you pretend to.

You are the one who needs pills if you think openly admitting you dont' even use trisquel on the trisquel forums is nothing to be ashamed about. And lying about the fact you said you use non free video drivers on irc....

SuperTramp83

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Now I feel very bad for having replied to you at all. You don't deserve my energy. You are not worth my time.
I especially regret the fact that I ate your psycho trolling bate both here and on IRC.

This is your post dating 8/8/2015, a few weeks after your brilliant appearance on this forum.. ->
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/returned-trisquel7?page=1#comment-75592

I know for a fact he doesn't use trisquel, because he told me himself.

And his reasons are that trisquel is less popular? Either he is more of a wuss then I give him credit for, or that is not the real reason. How can anyone not want to use trisquel because it is not popular enough for them. Maybe he can explain that further for us. IMO, The real reasons must be the same as every other free software advocate who uses debian over trisquel. For prop drivers.

And i know its not because its nescessary for him to have prop wireless drivers, since he has stated he bought a dongle to use free drivers and has promoted autheros on here. So what else could it be?

The fact he uses debian and not trisquel, makes him fake enough as it is, regardless if he uses prop drivers or not.

To which Banana Magique responded:

So, basically, you do not know but assumes that he is a liar. With no proof whatsoever. If anything, buying a dongle that Linux-libre runs suggests refusing proprietary drivers/firmware as much as possible.

To which you replied in your splendidly moronic style:

As for him using prop drivers, elementary my dear watson... I gave you my reasoning already, no need to repeat it. I didn't need proof from snowden that the government was spying on our communications either. Its called common sense.

This ends here!! You are clearly a disturbed individual. I am not quite sure if you are a troll (if you are, you are some kind of a champion troll) or indeed a borderline psycho or something like that (I think this is the case, since I had the "opportunity" to have a 10 minute "chat" with you when you PMed me on IRC when you were fresh new here).

I forgot about this post of yours and rereading it I felt ashamed. I am not a kid anymore. I should have known better. I should have ignored you. I guess ignoring stupid people and their bullshit when they spread nonsense about me is not my forte.. I guess I should work on it.
Bye CooloutAC! This is the very last word, the last fraction of my time and energy you take from me.

cooloutac
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se unió: 06/27/2015

IT certainly is nuts and a waste of energy to debate against something you have no shame in already openly admitting.

SO again, either i'm psychic about the fact you don't use trisquel, or you also told me you use debian to use non free video drivers like calinou does...

Take your pills.

tomlukeywood
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se unió: 12/05/2014

I have something to confess
months ago when i was a member of this forum i used Debian main

i hope you can forgive me in time.

cooloutac
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se unió: 06/27/2015

we all used something else before trisquel.

Even if we didn't use trisquel or free linux drivers, the difference is we didn't sit on a high horse pretending otherwise while hypocritically scolding other potential new users for doing the same thing.

Nor would i promote non free linux drivers or other distros on trisquel forums or irc. I guess that makes me crazy.

Magic Banana

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In the Synaptic package manager, you can list packages based on their "origins" (a button in the lower left corner). A click on the first one and a Shift+click on the last one to select them all. Then a right click to remove them all completely. Repeat the operation for every repository with proprietary software and "Apply" the changes. You can finally remove the repositories from the menu Configuration/Software source (tab "Other software").

nevermoreraven
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se unió: 10/15/2014

I only have software from videolan for libdvdcss2 and from trisquel. But I have two packages from local. Should I remove the local packages to get rid of the errors? I have the keys for videolan and of course trisquel's repo.

Should I remove videolan and install it the official way? sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh ?

Magic Banana

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/usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh only installs "libdvdcss2", not VLC.

What are the remaining authentication errors? It may simply be that a mirror was down.

nevermoreraven
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Removing the PPAs through this guide gets rid of the authentication errors.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed

nevermoreraven
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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install thepackageyouweregoingtoinstall

nevermoreraven
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Actually I am still getting the authentication errors. :( What am I doing wrong?

Magic Banana

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nevermoreraven
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I tried this
$ sudo apt-key update
$ sudo apt-get update
Then $ sudo apt-get install packagename

Source: https://askubuntu.com/questions/75565/why-am-i-getting-authentication-errors-for-packages-from-an-ubuntu-repository accessed 10-19-15

MeNoMore
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se unió: 10/05/2015

Maybe root into cd/ and list all the repositories installed?

/etc/apt/sources.list

And just remove the ones listed perhaps.

What do you think Banana?

When running apt-get update for a https mirror without apt-transport-https installed, you probably invalidated your cached (sources) data, as a side effect invalidating the signatures - this should fix itself after running "apt-get update" again (you might have to revert to a non-https mirror temporarily)?

To avoid situation like that in the future, never use dpkg -i directly. In the rare case you really need to install packages from Ubuntu (or from another repository) create a corresponding entry in /etc/apt/sources.list and use aptitude/apt-get to install the package. It helps avoiding any conflicts between the packages. If you cannot install a package at all because of missing dependencies, rebuilding the package could help.

But please note, that installing packages coming from other places than the official, could introduce problems of all kinds, including security issues.

The 404 errors suggest that have outdated entries in your sources.list?
In addition, it seems like something else is installing something in the background. Stop any other processes that could be using dpkg. Finally, since you are also getting an error about certain index files not being downloaded, remove the &&. Instead run:

sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install

Use ps aux | grep dpkg command in the terminal to see if dpkg is running and what it is doing.
Hope this Helps!

-- Victoria

Magic Banana

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Maybe root into cd/ and list all the repositories installed?
/etc/apt/sources.list
And just remove the ones listed perhaps.
What do you think Banana?

You mean "remove the listed repositories *but Trisquel's*", right? That is the "text-editing" equivalent to what I suggested at the end of https://trisquel.info/forum/warning-following-packages-cannot-be-authenticated#comment-79268 (using the, probably less intimidating, "Software & Updates" window):

You can finally remove the repositories from the menu Configuration/Software source (tab "Other software").

But removing a repository does not remove the packages that were installed from it, hence the previous steps in my post.

nevermoreraven
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Not sure what causes the issue. But I fix the issue by doing this each time I install software or upgrade.
Sudo apt-key update && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y

nevermoreraven
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Not sure what causes the issue. But I fix the issue by doing this each time I
install software or upgrade.
Sudo apt-key update && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y