Yet another evolution topic

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axedre
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se unió: 09/02/2011

Hi everyone!
Just ran a clean install of Trisquel linux and I have to say I'm VERY impressed.
Now, I know this has been asked hundreds of times before (don't know whether on this forum as well, since I can't seem to find a "search topics" function), but I'd like to hear the "Trisquel version" of the answer: how on earth can I remove evolution without breaking gnome? The reason I ask is that Trisquel seems to pay a discrete attention to the "ethical" and shall we say "philosophical" point of view on computing and software in general, so I believe that the imposition of any piece of undesired software kinda violates it.
How does Trisquel stand on this issue? And, finally, how would I go about removing evolution (or any other pre-installed software)?
Thanks in advance for your replies.

Andy

friTTe
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se unió: 07/06/2011

I have always tried to remove Evolution from all dists because i rather use Thunderbird.

But i think Evolution is integrated into Gnome in some way that dont allow removing, i use to hude the menu entry instead =)

akirashinigami

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se unió: 02/25/2010

You can hide Evolution from the menu by going to Main Menu > System > Preferences > Main Menu, then unchecking the entry for Evolution. As far as actually uninstalling it, I don't think there's any easy way to do that.

Also, if you want to search topics, you can use the text box in the upper-right corner of the webpage (the one with the magnifying glass).

SirGrant

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se unió: 07/27/2010

Yes friTTe is right I believe. Evolution is has some gnome components that rely on it so uninstalling it can break gnome. However, the problem with gnome and evolution being integrated is an upstream problem (or they might say it is by design). It would sort of be like if an upstream GNU program or Linux had a bug in it and Trisquel has the bug because we are downstream and use that software.

At that point there are a few solutions that I can see:
1) Don't use GNOME if you find it to be an imposition (e.g. Install KDE or Trisquel Mini)
2) File a bug report with upstream GNOME and try to get them to fix it
3) You could post it as a task (https://trisquel.info/en/tasks) and throw up some $$
4) Hack on it yourself and change GNOME in a way so that it doesn't depend on Evolution. The source code for Trisquel is Free Software and available on the download page.
5) Follow a guide online and try to remove it without breaking stuff. I'm sure it is probably possible but maybe not easy.
6) Ignore evolution as a program (remove the shortcut from your menu).

Ultimately though the problem of Evolution + GNOME integration is an upstream problem. However no one is really in a sense imposing that you use it. All the code is Free. If you don't like it you can DL it and change it yourself and then distribute evolution-free versions of Trisquel if you want.

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se unió: 07/24/2010

As far as I see, Evolution is broken in many packages and only some of them are used by other components of GNOME. It seems safe to remove:
evolution
evolution-common
evolution-exchange
evolution-webcal
evolution-data-server
evolution-plugins
libbackend1.2-0
libedata-book1.2-2
nautilus-sendto
libedata-call1.2-7
libegroupwise1.2-13
libevolution
libgdata-google1.2-1
libgdata1.2-1

This list is only based on a quick investigation. Some are probably missing and you should double-check that no other important package (such as gnome-panel) would be removed as a dependancy.

Allan Javier Aguilar Castillo
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se unió: 04/30/2011

name at domain wrote:

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Hello, axedre:

Simply, remove every evolution package except
evolution-data-server-common. That's how I did it.

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