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Youtube Ditches Flash, and it Hardly Matters: Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss

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Sáb, 02/07/2015 - 22:56
SuperTramp83
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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/01/new-drm-boss-same-old-boss

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Dom, 02/08/2015 - 03:42
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Jabjabs
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Two steps forward, one step back. I can see why people celebrated this move but it was only a big victory if you ignored the fact that DRM is still present.

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Dom, 02/08/2015 - 04:15
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J.B. Nicholson-Owens
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name at domain wrote:
> Two steps forward, one step back. I can see why people celebrated this
> move but it was only a big victory if you ignored the fact that DRM is
> still present.

What do you consider to be the one net step forward? The EFF describes
the situation as substituting one non-Free (not their framing, mine)
program for another -- the proprietary software used to implement
W3C-endorsed DRM instead of Adobe Flash. This instead of Google using
their own WebM in an HTML5 video element.

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Dom, 02/08/2015 - 05:50
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andrew
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> What do you consider to be the one net step forward? The EFF
> describes the situation as substituting one non-Free (not their
> framing, mine) program for another -- the proprietary software used
> to implement W3C-endorsed DRM instead of Adobe Flash. This instead of
> Google using their own WebM in an HTML5 video element.

Because at least JavaScript can be run reliably with free software,
whereas ActionScript cannot (Gnash is somewhat unreliable).

But you are correct that the JavaScript is still proprietary just as the
SWF-embedded ActionScript is.

Andrew

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Mar, 02/10/2015 - 01:04
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tomlukeywood
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"Because at least JavaScript can be run reliably with free software"

you can run adobe flash fine on free software
but the program adobe flash is not free its the same
with JavaScript
just because your using a libre browser or operating
system dose not make the thing your running libre

so being able to run a non-free program can be seen as worse
unless your studying it to write a replacement

i admit that its easier to replace non-free JavaScript than
it is with action-script but its still non-free software

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Dom, 02/08/2015 - 06:36
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davidnotcoulthard (no verificado)
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So EME's a de facto standard and nothing's stopping that? Bloody hell.

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Dom, 02/08/2015 - 13:08
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Jabjabs
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It is a really terrible situation, that said forks like Abrowser I'm sure will not support this feature. Lets just hope that eventually Mozilla comes to the same conclusion and abandons this technology and stick to the ideals they are founded on.

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Dom, 02/08/2015 - 13:58
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onpon4
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Not just de facto. Flash was a de facto standard. EME is an official standard.

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Lun, 02/09/2015 - 15:04
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davidnotcoulthard (no verificado)
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It's official? (Missed it - any links?)

God knows how prophetic Neil Peart's second lyric to a sidelong epic was.

On a less related note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbd9oGDWd0 ( https://r6---sn-a5m7zu7l.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?keepalive=yes&ip=139.0.106.195&key=cms1&pl=19&ipbits=0&gir=yes&upn=_kB9STjW918&lmt=1401926412389321&clen=2891011&sver... )

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Lun, 02/09/2015 - 17:16
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onpon4
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"Official" as in the W3C being the standards organization for the Web, and putting EME into the HTML5 spec. How could it get any more official?

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Dom, 02/08/2015 - 17:09
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Jodiendo
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SuperTramp83

Those news are good information, but I STILL CAN'T COMPREHEND WHY YOU ARE POSTING THIS NEWS IN The main forum of trisquel?

I'm thinking you like being a bull headed politician!

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Dom, 02/08/2015 - 18:13
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tomlukeywood
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i rely think the solution to this is to have a genrel discussion forum

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Dom, 02/08/2015 - 23:14
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lembas
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This is the English Trisquel users forums. We use Trisquel and write in English, ergo it's all good. Unless the Big Cheese tells us differently.

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Lun, 02/09/2015 - 05:08
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muhammed
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Haha, yeah

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Lun, 02/09/2015 - 16:02
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quantumgravity
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who is the "big cheese"?

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Lun, 02/09/2015 - 16:52
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SuperTramp83
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or - what is?

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Lun, 02/09/2015 - 23:25
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t3g
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Content providers want DRM and Google has to implement it or else Google doesn't make money off of YouTube. Simple as that.

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Mar, 02/10/2015 - 01:00
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tomlukeywood
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that’s not a true statement of course Google would make money
off YouTube its the biggest video sharing website in the world

hundreds of millions people visit that site every day
they just need a small amount of advertising

it would just mean they might be making million's instead a billions(if they started paying there taxes too)

i would not feel to sorry for the corporation

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Sáb, 02/14/2015 - 22:58
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Jodiendo
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Sorry, but this article should had been post-it in the TROLL HOLE and not in the main forum of Trisquel.

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Sáb, 02/14/2015 - 23:30
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tomlukeywood
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i think its fine to have posts related to libre software on trisquel forms
as much of the purpose of trisquel is to make a fully free
gnu/linux distro
so this is relevant

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Dom, 02/15/2015 - 00:44
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muhammed
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Fewer people use the Troll Hole. Why post the topic where few people will notice? I'm glad that it's here in the English forum.

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