Problems I am having with Trisquel
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Regarding the forum:
I tried to register a new account on the forum, but it said it could not
e-mail me. I am suspecting that is because I am using Disroot, and not
any of the popular email providers or hosting it myself. Understandable
if it's a current error due to a flaw in the code that could be fixed,
but still odd considering popular email providers spy on you and most
users can't afford to self-host their email.
Regarding the distro itself:
My Compaq Presario (it was the most affordable option) laptop cannot
boot into Trisquel Mini from my USB drive. While booting from the BIOS
screen on an override, it gives me a red error window saying "Secure
Boot Violation" "Invalid signature detected. Check Secure Boot Policy in
Setup". I found no Secure Boot Policy option or a Setup tab, but I did
find a Secure Boot option, and I assume I am to disable that. But that
sounds like a dangerous measure to do by myself, so I'm here to ask if I
should do that.
For the curious, the laptop didn't come with Windows (so it would
hypothetically be incompatible), it came with a variant of Debian made
by a company for companies to put in their retail computers. On my
family's PC, it errors saying it had a kernel panic, and gives a
0xffffffff address and a 0x00000000 one. There's a lot more details, but
it's too much, so I'd rather not type them by hand and give a picture if
asked for one.
I was suspecting it doesn't work on my laptop because I mounted it on
the other PC with Rufus, but there's that and I just formatted the drive
there (I will put Trisquel back in it soon), and Windows on my laptop
continues to refuse to even recognize it. There, I suspect that the
Windows setup is just broken (or Windows itself is).
I think there is UEFI and a legacy (EFI?) mode, maybe switching modes can help.
I think "Secure Boot" is just something that prevents other OS from being installed, but https://gnu.org or https://www.fsf.org/ may have more information about the "Secure Boot". I do not know exactly what it is.
Maybe Windows uses a master boot record to boot, and switching between the two somehow does something that prevents a boot, though I do not know.
I think I first heard about "Secure Boot" and how to switch to Gnu/Linux from https://switchedtolinux.com
But it has been some time since I last checked that site. Though I saw a video by that person showing how to install Debian near the time I switched from Windows to Gnu/Linux.
I think I saw that site in a YouTube video, though I think an Invidious instance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invidious
can help you see those videos without using some of the main YouTube things.
https://trisquel.info/en/users/othercody
Maybe on things like Windows 8 you may have to (unfortunately) turn on Windows to get to a setting in Windows to switch UEFI and a legacy (EFI?) mode or turn off "Secure Boot".
I think I had to do something like that when I installed Debian.
Disable Secure Boot.
As for the Disroot email address, dozens of users of this forum have an address from the disroot.org domain. I would try to contact David (assuming he is still the "website admin, Data Controller and Data Protection Officer at the trisquel.info website"): https://trisquel.info/users/david/
Yeah, I'm using Disroot, no troubles at all. Probably a forum glitch of some sort.
Hello friends,
On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 10:52 PM gmestanley <name at domain> wrote:
> *Regarding the forum:*
>
Regarding the forum, I can confirm I read your mail from Trisquel mailing
list and can reply just find. I am just surprised to be able to receive
email again since for months I haven't from this mailing list.
Best regards,
Malsasa
I hope this blank reply works. I don't want to repeat the original
message's contents.
I need help as soon as possible. I managed to install Trisquel Mini in a
computer I can use, but it's not mine, and it runs Windows because the
owner does not want to learn how to use a new system. The setup offered
an "Install alongside Windows Boot Manager" option, so since I didn't
have a partition ready for it yet, I thought that sufficed, and it wold
do its job well enough.
I did this weeks ago. On Friday, Windows Boot Manager broke apart and
could not run any installation of Windows in the computer. While looking
into how to fix this, today I went on Gigolo and saw that all devices
were listed as "Unix device"s. With the filesystem also now being a Unix
one overall and the old filesystem being found in /media/, what I gather
is Trisquel Mini transformed the system into a Unix one, and a Windows
"Update" made WBM not know how to handle that. Still Windows's fault in
part, but that does not sound like installing "alongside" WBM.
While running Trisquel Mini's setup again yesterday, I saw it now
provides a "destroy Trisquel" option. I will try that and then try to
fix WBM with a Windows setup.
On 24/09/09 07:53PM, gmestanley wrote:
> I hope this blank reply works. I don't want to repeat the original message's
> contents.
>
> I need help as soon as possible. I managed to install Trisquel Mini in a
> computer I can use, but it's not mine, and it runs Windows because the owner
> does not want to learn how to use a new system. The setup offered an
> "Install alongside Windows Boot Manager" option, so since I didn't have a
> partition ready for it yet, I thought that sufficed, and it wold do its job
> well enough.
>
> I did this weeks ago. On Friday, Windows Boot Manager broke apart and could
> not run any installation of Windows in the computer. While looking into how
> to fix this, today I went on Gigolo and saw that all devices were listed as
> "Unix device"s. With the filesystem also now being a Unix one overall and
> the old filesystem being found in /media/, what I gather is Trisquel Mini
> transformed the system into a Unix one, and a Windows "Update" made WBM not
> know how to handle that. Still Windows's fault in part, but that does not
> sound like installing "alongside" WBM.
>
> While running Trisquel Mini's setup again yesterday, I saw it now provides a
> "destroy Trisquel" option. I will try that and then try to fix WBM with a
> Windows setup.
Consider reading the following articles from the news about dual booting GNU/Linux and Microsoft Windows.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/21/24225108/microsoft-security-update-windows-linux-dual-boot-errors
https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/23/24226674/microsoft-offers-workarounds-for-its-faulty-dual-boot-linux-patch
Thanks, but Trisquel itself is actually running perfectly. What isn't
running and I need to be running is Windows. I'm figuring that out by
myself anyway instead of asking Windows questions in the GNU/Linux
forum, sorry about that. I mistook what the second option says, instead
it's "Erase the disk and install the operating system". Not ideal in
this case because I don't want other OSes erased.
I am still curious as to why Gigolo parses even partitions created with
Windows as "Unix device"s, but I assume that I should take with Gigolo
contact.
Can you start Windows from the BIOS/UEFI? If so, the problem is only that Windows is not listed in GRUB's menu, right? Since Trisquel 11 uses GRUB 2.06 (like Ubuntu 22.04), https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2021-December/041769.html would then explain the problem and the solution would be to open a terminal in Trisquel to execute:
$ echo GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false | sudo tee -a /etc/default/grub
$ sudo update-grub
Do not forget the -a option or you will lose the current content of /etc/default/grub!