Trisquel for old computer
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I'd like to install Trisquel on an old Pentium 2 computer so I can donate it to a library or a school. I downloaded Trisquel Taranis mini, but since a network adapter is not present in the computer, I could not complete the installation. Is there a version which lets me select no network adapter like my old Debian CD does?
> since a
> network adapter is not present in the computer, I could not complete the
> installation.
Really? Which part of installation did it happen in? As far as I know,
you don't need internet connection (or a network adapter) for installing
any GNU/Linux distro.
El mar, 05-04-2011 a las 16:27 +0200, Daniel Molina escribió:
> > since a
> > network adapter is not present in the computer, I could not complete the
> > installation.
>
> Really? Which part of installation did it happen in? As far as I know,
> you don't need internet connection (or a network adapter) for installing
> any GNU/Linux distro.
>
Maybe he is talking about an netinstall, since the pc is too old to run
a LiveCD.
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On 05/04/11 16:32, Luis A. Guzman Garcia wrote:
> El mar, 05-04-2011 a las 16:27 +0200, Daniel Molina escribió:
>
>>> since a
>>> network adapter is not present in the computer, I could not complete the
>>> installation.
>>>
>> Really? Which part of installation did it happen in? As far as I know,
>> you don't need internet connection (or a network adapter) for installing
>> any GNU/Linux distro.
>>
>>
> Maybe he is talking about an netinstall, since the pc is too old to run
> a LiveCD.
>
Aha. What about the text-mode installation? I think it is avaible since
Trisquel 4.0.
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Unfortunately, I am talking about the text mode in the live CD of Trisquel mini. It tries to recognize a network adapter (or something similar) and then after it doesn't find it it asks me to choose a repository which it can't verify and thus it can't go to the next step. The graphic installer which takes about 10 minutes to load (maybe even more than that) simply crashes. Will an older version of Trisquel support my old computer (it has 128 MB memory and 233 MHz)? I also don't mind installing another Libre distribution such as Ututo but I can't find a very old version of it to download such as the initial release. I did manage to install an old version of Debian from 2005 which simply let me select "no adapter available" (or something similar) in the text installer.
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The memory amount and the CPU speed should be pretty irrelevant, Linux was originally developed for 386 and 486 processors and yours is still much more recent. The worst thing that could happen with a really old PC, it wouldn't be able to run a visual desktop environment. I never worked with such old PCs as yours, but I guess that at least Openbox will run well on it. LXDE already uses Openbox as the window manager, so maybe it'll run OK too.
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Actually according to this page my computer doesn't satisfy the minimum requirements for Trisquel (I also probably don't have a sound card and as you can see internet is required. The entire disk space is 3 GB so at least two of the requirements below are satisfied):
http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/install-trisquel
The system requirements for Trisquel Mini are lower:
* 400 MHz x86 processor (700 MHz recommended)
* 128 MB of RAM (256 MB recommended)
* 1.5 GB of disk space (3 GB recommended)
* Graphics card capable of 800x600 resolution
* Sound card
* Dial-up Internet connection (high-speed connection recommended)
If anyone knows of a libre distro that I can install on my computer I will try it.
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The minimum requirement of Trisquel is probably due to LXDE. An Openbox-only (or Fluxbox, Blackbox, IceWM) "environment" should need even less processing power. The very last resort would be textonly mode, for that you really don't need hundreds of Mhz.
I don't understand why network is a requirement, it should not be so. I have an old PC laying around with Win98, it has 500 Mhz but even less RAM than yours and it has no network card as well. I'll try it out soon and see if there is an option to install without networking abilities.
If everything else fails, Debian should be easy to install on old PCs, because you can choose to not install a desktop environment. From the text only mode you can then install and test any kind of window manager you want. As long you don't download from the non-free repositories of Debian, you'll remain 100% free.
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I did in fact install Debian from a CD from 2005. The installation took a long time and some of the software takes a long time to load (e.g. Open Office). Trisquel Mini sounded good because it has lightweight applications just like my Openmoko phone (incidentally, if Pidgin runs on my phone why is it not included in Trisquel mini?). Can I install the latest version of Debian which has a kernel free of binary blobs? I would of course prefer installing a Libre distribution.
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:49:13 +0200 (CEST)
alonivtsan at gmail.com (alonivtsan at gmail.com) wrote:
> Actually according to this page my computer doesn't satisfy the minimum
> requirements for Trisquel (I also probably don't have a sound card and as you
> can see internet is required. The entire disk space is 3 GB so at least two
> of the requirements below are satisfied):
> http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/install-trisquel
> The system requirements for Trisquel Mini are lower:
>
> * 400 MHz x86 processor (700 MHz recommended)
> * 128 MB of RAM (256 MB recommended)
> * 1.5 GB of disk space (3 GB recommended)
> * Graphics card capable of 800x600 resolution
> * Sound card
> * Dial-up Internet connection (high-speed connection recommended)
>
> If anyone knows of a libre distro that my computer satisfies I will try
> installing it.
Sound like a perfect candidate for ConnochaetOS, a libre distro for old computers based on Arch.
It's still in development (Beta2 ISO exists). Minimum requirements are:
* i586 processor
* 2 GB disk space
* 64 MB RAM
Default installation comes with custom icewm, see screenshots at http://www.connochaetos.org/wiki/screenshots.
It isn't yet on the list of Free GNU/Linux distributions, but on the "Incoming distros" list
at libreplanet.
Regards,
Henry
On 06/04/11 06:42, name at domain wrote:
> Unfortunately, I am talking about the text mode in the live CD of
> Trisquel mini. It tries to recognize a network adapter (or something
> similar) and then after it doesn't find it it asks me to choose a
> repository which it can't verify and thus it can't go to the next step.
Can you not let that particular form without text and follow up? Please,
that some one correct me, but it must be a bug of the installer
software and so, you shouldn't have problems with other installations.
> The graphic installer which takes about 10 minutes to load (maybe even
> more than that) simply crashes. Will an older version of Trisquel
> support my old computer (it has 128 MB memory and 233 MHz)?
I think that you could try install Trisquel 3.5 (maybe it gnome
interface is lighter and also, e.g., my dad's laptop cannot boot
plymouth which is in Trisquel from 4.0 ), and when it is installed, try
to use use the system although it was very slow and then you should be
able to install (previosly downloaded from another computer) selected
packages from a CD, for example lxde (although remove default packages
is not encouraged). Alternatively, why you don't buy a network adapter?
They are cheaper than 10 euros, or you can borrow one from another
computer during the installation process.
> I did manage to install an old version of Debian from 2005 which
> simply let me select "no adapter available" (or something similar) in
> the text installer.
I think that you should not experience the adapter problem in most of
the other alternatives that you try.
Daniel Molina wrote:
> On 06/04/11 06:42, name at domain wrote:
>> Unfortunately, I am talking about the text mode in the live CD of
>> Trisquel mini. It tries to recognize a network adapter (or something
>> similar) and then after it doesn't find it it asks me to choose a
>> repository which it can't verify and thus it can't go to the next step.
> Can you not let that particular form without text and follow up?
> Please, that some one correct me, but it must be a bug of the
> installer software and so, you shouldn't have problems with other
> installations.
>
>> The graphic installer which takes about 10 minutes to load (maybe
>> even more than that) simply crashes. Will an older version of
>> Trisquel support my old computer (it has 128 MB memory and 233 MHz)?
on grub: try adding "nomodeset" in boot line (it turns off
plymouth for fedora Sugar on a Stick fedora boots. Worth a try...
> I think that you could try install Trisquel 3.5 (maybe it gnome
> interface is lighter and also, e.g., my dad's laptop cannot boot
> plymouth which is in Trisquel from 4.0 ), and when it is installed,
> try to use use the system although it was very slow and then you
> should be able to install (previosly downloaded from another computer)
> selected packages from a CD, for example lxde (although remove default
> packages is not encouraged). Alternatively, why you don't buy a
> network adapter? They are cheaper than 10 euros, or you can borrow one
> from another computer during the installation process.
>> I did manage to install an old version of Debian from 2005 which
>> simply let me select "no adapter available" (or something similar) in
>> the text installer.
> I think that you should not experience the adapter problem in most of
> the other alternatives that you try.
>
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I could obviously buy a network adapter, but I want to donate the computer without needing to upgrade it first :)
I suggest that you ask sponsor from remote computer repairs site, Pentium 2 computers are way too old, who knows they might hang up in important school activities.
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I got a cheap network adapter so I should be able to install Trisquel mini.
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I tried to install Trisquel mini, but unfortunately after the installation completed I couldn't use it as I received a grub error. I installed Ubuntu 8.04 using the free software only option which works slowly (the browser Midori seems adequate). Is there a distro based on Ubuntu 8.04 that I can use (such as gNewSense) or perhaps a way to turn it into gNewSense? Unfortunately, I had no luck trying to install the latest gNewSense.
I suggest you use it as a thin terminal with LTSP.
http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/configure-ltsp-server
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