Can Trisquel 11 *please* replace Pidgin with a 21st century chat client?

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andyprough
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A rejoint: 02/12/2015

>"Even seasoned archeologists understand that not everything can be retained forever."

Brings a classic nadebula quote to mind: "The result is that Trisquel is only suitable for archeological use."
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-devuan-unstable-i-did-thing#comment-158862

iShareFreedom
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A rejoint: 12/20/2021

Pidgin is not obsolete, his last update was 2023-08-08

strypey
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A rejoint: 05/14/2015

iShareFreedom:
> Pidgin is not obsolete, his last update was 2023-08-08

An app can be in maintenance mode and also be effectively obsolete. If you're looking for a relic from the IM era of the late 90s/ early 2000s, Pidgin is perfect. For anyone expecting a 21st century chat app (eg E2EE), Pidgin is obsolete.

sam-d16
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A rejoint: 09/28/2023

Hi all . I agree with Strypey that pidgin is complete crap))

Why? https://bishopfox.com/blog/xmpp-underappreciated-attack-surface

A little more information on this topic.. https://web.archive.org/web/20211215132539/https://infosec-handbook.eu/articles/xmpp-aitm/

What about Matrix? Matrix No, thanks. https://hackea.org/notas/matrix.html

As far as I know, Snikket servers are located in the UK, despite the fact that this organization is not a state organization, we remember the story of Julian Paul Assange !

But I also agree with the developers who want to make Trisquel universal so that a schoolchild in Latin America can install this distro with minimal programs and can immediately use it.

If we go in this direction to please everyone, perhaps Dino GPL-3.0 license could be a good alternative
https://github.com/dino/dino https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Dino_(instant_messenger)

prospero
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A rejoint: 05/20/2022

Those two links are about the XMPP protocol, not about any client specifically. The senior security consultant who wrote the first one seems to be using Pidgin. Or did you mean that XMPP itself is "complete crap"? In that case, Dino is probably not going to solve anything.

The OMEMO and OTR plugins for Pidgin are available in Aramo, so they may be included in the default install:

https://packages.trisquel.org/aramo/purple-lurch
https://packages.trisquel.org/aramo/pidgin-otr

grimlok
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A rejoint: 04/16/2013

When I don't like using a software packaged with Trisquel, I just uninstall it and use the software that I like using. For instance, I don't like MATE, so I clear it out and us XFCE.

Peace.

prospero
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A rejoint: 05/20/2022

If I was to switch to XFCE, I would probably use the netinstall instead of the MATE iso. But in truth I cannot always tell the difference between those two DEs, except of course for the rodent monster running for world domination on the menu button. For my current needs, Trisquel Mini and LXDE provides a simpler, ligtwheight alternative that only needs minor tweaking.

That said, I believe that Strypey had new users in mind, who are probably going to use the default application if there is one. Although I am not sure whether this is still the topic here, or if we can now move on to systemd, or rebasing on Devuan, or migrating to HyperBK. Or misnomers and propaganda terms to be avoided.

openmind
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A rejoint: 08/30/2023

You do not need to use Matrix.
https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/matrix-vs-xmpp/