Game night?

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JadedCtrl
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I was in a pipe, smoking a pipe, having a pipe dream this morning and thought, "Hey, wouldn't a weekly game night be fun?"
Thus I'm here to ask if you think if that's a good idea-- one night a week we select a free MP game and server to play on, and, well, play on it. It seems like that would be a productive enough use of time. :p
What do you think? =w=

onpon4
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Sure. It could be a nice idea to bring people together and promote libre games. I'd suggest you talk about it in a place that gets more publicity than the Troll Hole, though. ;)

Also, it would be better for someone organizing such an event to host the games, not to seek out existing servers.

JadedCtrl
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I was thinking of a more Trisquel forum libre game night, but it would be nice to help promote libre games.
I'll try to find a place with a little more publicity. :p
And I was planning on hosting the server for game night, actually.

pizzaiolo
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What kind of game do you have in mind?

JadedCtrl
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-snip-
Icecat crashed and ended up double-posting, sorry...

pizzaiolo
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I'm in!

Magic Banana

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Hedgewars! I would add "Shoppa mode" but that would not be newbie-friendly at all.

tomlukeywood
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I’m in!

JadedCtrl
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I've posted a thread on the LQ Forums: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5381383
I chose the LQ Forums pretty much due to their popularity and fair leniency to this sort of thing, at least as far as I can tell.
If you think you have a better forum in mind, do tell.

Here is what the LQ thread says:

"I'd like to formally initiate Libre Game Night-- one night a week where members of the community kick back for a while and play a good game together.
The first Libre Game Night will be this Saturday (the 27th) at 8:30pm US central time.

So on Saturday at 8:30pm we'll join the IRC channel #lgn on Freenode, proceed to join the game's server posted on this thread, and then get to playing!

It hasn't been decided what game will be played, however.
Post your suggestions down below!
The game itself must be free software, but non-free art assets are OK.
Whichever game is posted most frequently will be the game played on this weeks' game night. Suggestion deadline is Thursday night!"

So, yea. I'll tally up suggestions from this thread and the LQ thread.

pizzaiolo
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How about Xonotic?

SuperTramp83

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A rejoint: 10/31/2014

I'm too serious for games!

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tomlukeywood
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i would recommend 0ad but every one would have to have amazing internet or it would lag like hell!

anyone know good libre mass multiplayer games?

some ones i can think of are:
minetest
openarena
xonotic
0ad
teeworlds
Terminal Overload

SuperTramp83

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A rejoint: 10/31/2014

If I had video acceleration I'd show you what "frag" means!
But I don't, so no openarena for me :(

tomlukeywood
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even if you run at very low settings?

and out of interest can you run a game like freedoom with no video acceleration?

SuperTramp83

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CPU is AMD dual core 2.10 ghz and to tell you the truth I haven't even tried to run anything "relatively demanding" on it (like openarena) for I assume it won't run and if it will, it will be 640*480 with very shitty pixelated graphics. I think I'll install openarena today and see if I'm right.

tomlukeywood
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also you just about make the minimum system requirements for the software renderer in open-spades:
2GHz dual-core processor
Pointing Device
512MB RAM
800x600 display
Stereo audio output

assuming you have 512mb of ram and a mouse

SuperTramp83

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I have 4 gb RAM
A decent display
A very decent stereo output
A mouse
A cat (no, I'm lying, I have a dog)

Will try later and if it does work properly I'll frag you like a swiss cheese! :)

danieru
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If your CPU is fast enough you can use a render based on software, here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lax_lgTYiIo

JadedCtrl
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A rejoint: 08/11/2014

Seconded. My GPU is so bad, I can't really run any games even on the lowest settings. :p
CPU makes up for GPU, though.

ssdclickofdeath
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Are you aware of the Libreplanet Gaming Collective?
Maybe you could try setting something up with them?
http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Gaming_Collective

They have Minetest and nethack servers, so there's not much variety, though.

tomlukeywood
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the link just redirects to the libreplanet main page(at least it dose for me)
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Main_Page

ssdclickofdeath
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Try this link:
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Gaming_Collective
Apparently non-https links redirect to the main page. Weird.

Legimet
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Do you not have HTTPS Everywhere?

Alij
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Lets play Wesnoth! i can host ;) http://www.wesnoth.org/

JadedCtrl
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I vote for OpenSpades--
https://sites.google.com/a/yvt.jp/openspades/
=w=

tomlukeywood
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btw the source code for the game is free software but when compiling i noticed it downloaded its models sound textures etc

which are i assume all rights reserved based on a quote from there github page:

"Note that other assets including sounds and models are not open source."

JadedCtrl
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I don't mind non-free art, but the BuildAndShoot forums has a lot of unlicensed models, sounds, and textures. Perhaps one of the artists would consider making their art assets CC or some such license. I'll try and get in touch with one of them.

SuperTramp83

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Just to give you guys an idea how crappy is the ati crap without its crappy non-free firmware:

openarena (fastest settings, everything on lowest, resolution 640*480): 5-7 fps

Hedgewars (lowest settings, it looks really bad with squares lines all over the screen, resolution 640*480): 30-40 fps

Hedgewars on second lowest setting, same resolution: 7-10 fps

No games for me! :(

JadedCtrl
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I'm sorry, SuperTramp! :c
If you happen to have the room for dedicated graphics card in your computer, you can get one from ThinkPenguin for 64 USD.
I had to get one a while back-- they work quite well.

SuperTramp83

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Hm.. it's a laptop and last time I disassembled it I think I did not see any available space for a dedicated GPU.
Maybe some 2d old game, and very non-demanding?

JadedCtrl
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Perhaps you could replace the processor with an Intel with integrated graphics?
Intel graphics tend to be freedom-friendly as heck.
Perhaps a CLI game, too.

Legimet
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"Intel graphics tend to be freedom-friendly as heck"

All the nonfree stuff is loaded by the BIOS. And they will start to require nonfree blobs to be loaded by the kernel soon. That doesn't seem very freedom-friendly to me.

tomlukeywood
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you should beable to play freedoom
can you player multiplayer with freedoom?

also i think you should at least beable to play say teeworlds at low settings

and theres always nethack i guess...

JadedCtrl
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"Hedgewars (lowest settings, it looks really bad with squares lines all over the screen, resolution 640*480): 30-40 fps"
If he can't play Hedgewars, I doubt he can play Teeworlds or Freedoom.
Nethack would probably work, though.

onpon4
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Hedgewars is probably not a good example. I don't know the technical details of its insides, but from the sound of things it uses something tasking quite a lot. (Scaling, maybe?) As I said below, there are quite a lot of games that can run just about flawlessly without any hardware acceleration or even a particularly great CPU. (I've actually personally tried some of those games on a Pentium 4 with an ATI integrated GPU, no hardware acceleration whatsoever. And of course, the Pentium 4 isn't exactly the greatest CPU around.)

onpon4
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When looking for games on a system with no hardware acceleration, look for these points:

- Software-based rendering, and in particular no OpenGL. Sometimes there's an option for this (SuperTux, for example).
- No 3-D.

In fact, satisfying these points is quite common. Some examples of great games I'm pretty sure you can run just fine:

- Alex the Allegator 4
- Battle Tanks
- Doom (via PrBoom+)*
- Dopewars
- Endgame: Singularity
- FreeCiv
- King's Quest VI (via ScummVM; also other ScummVM-supported games)*
- Kobo Deluxe
- Konquest (also other KDE games)
- The Mana World (also other Mana games; check out ManaPlus)
- Project: Starfighter
- Scavenger
- Sleep Is Death
- The Ur-Quan Masters*

* This game requires proprietary game data.

SuperTramp83

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thx onpon!

onpon4
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Here's another great one I forgot about: Jump'n'Bump! Best to get it from here (the version currently in Trisquel has some bugs that were fixed recently upstream): https://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/jumpnbump

tomlukeywood
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so shall we have a vote on which game to play?

pizzaiolo
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Yes!

JadedCtrl
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Alright, then, a formal vote. Votes due Friday morning!
Make a new post on this thread, suggesting one multiplayer game.

onpon4
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Probably should organize it better than "name whatever game you want to play and that's your vote". Chances are, you'll have several different games, and then one game with 2 or 3 votes will win, and there's no guarantee that the majority of people will be happy with it.

I suggest this: take people's suggestions in this thread as nominations, and then have a vote between the top 2-4 nominated games.

In the long-term, I would suggest building up a database of online multiplayer games (probably by some nomination process) you randomly pick from to vote for each week, or something like that. Something to make the process simpler. This would also would have the benefit of varying the games being played; it seems to me if everyone's always voting for their favorites, we'd only be playing a very small number of games over and over again, and that could get dull.

tdlnx

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I vote Nexuiz or OpenArena!

onpon4
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Nexuiz is kind of obsolete at this point; Xonotic is the continuation of its development after the head of the Nexuiz project decided to make it proprietary.

SuperTramp83

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I installed prboom+ and it is very smooth on lower resolutions. But it doesn't seem to have multiplayer. I guess there is a way to enable it though. Maybe install some other port?
How can I have doom multiplayer?

I vote doom 1 or 2.

p.s: As a token of my appreciation for reminding me about the sweet old doom here I leave you a magnet Tomlukey!

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d141df65ed92b0952a8f361f34d00ba803e7a012&dn=WAD+Collection+%28The+Ultimate+Doom%2C+Doom+II%2C+Final+Doom%2C+Heretic%2C&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

JadedCtrl
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Hey, that's the same torrent I used! c:
Yea, PrBoom+ has multiplayer, but you need to specify the IP and such in the terminal. It's on the man page, if memory serves.
Perhaps the Chocolate Doom port would work better on your PC-- it's lighter in weight.

onpon4
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Chocolate Doom focuses on being faithful to the original, not necessarily lightweight. It may or may not be better, but if it is it's not likely to be that significant.

tomlukeywood
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unrar failes to extract the files :( (not that i err downloaded it or anything...)

dose it work for you?

SuperTramp83

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On debian I have unrar-free and unar installed and it extracted it with no problems at all. Try installing those two.

tomlukeywood
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after using the command unar instead of unrar it works thanks!

Legimet
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Debian uses a newer version of unrar-free, which calls unar if it encounters a RARv3 file.