I cannot see any video on Youtube or other sites

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jcairol
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A rejoint: 08/09/2011

Even I have checked the help page, tried Flashvideoreplacer, joined html5, installed gNash, I cannot see any video on Youtube nor many other web pages (although there are some very few I can). Any help? Thanks

Cyberhawk

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A rejoint: 07/27/2010

On Youtube you might have to block their cookies. In Web Browser, go to Edit->Preferences->Privacy.

There you have to "Use custom settings for history" from the upper drop-down list. Then you'll be able to set which sites are allowed to save cookies.

For FVR: you have to set it up properly. Preferred Method: Embedded. Plugin/MimeType: WMP. Quality: better lower than higher.

What exactly did you do with gnash? You don't have to install it, it is preinstalled by default.

Also, html5 does not work in Web Browser before 4.0. You can try installing Trisquel 5.0 or use the Ubuntu PPA for Icecat.

Allan Javier Aguilar Castillo
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A rejoint: 04/30/2011

name at domain wrote:

> [...]
>
> Also, html5 does not work in Web Browser before 4.0. You
> can try installing Trisquel 5.0 or use the Ubuntu PPA for
> Icecat.

Hello:

There's no need to use any Ubuntu PPA. GNU IceCat 5.0 *is*
available in Trisquel own repositories.

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Cyberhawk

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For Trisquel 4.5 too? I thought it is only included in 5.0.

Mampir
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You can check which packages are available for which version on this
page: http://packages.trisquel.info/

Allan Javier Aguilar Castillo
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name at domain wrote:

> For Trisquel 4.5 too? I thought it is only included in
> 5.0.

Hello:

GNU IceCat 5.0 is available for Trisquel Taranis (4.1),
Slaine (4.5) and Dagda (5.0) [1].

[1] http://ur1.ca/4zbqs

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Luis Felipe López Acevedo
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2011/8/28 Allan Aguilar <name at domain>

> name at domain wrote:
>
> [...]
>>
>> Also, html5 does not work in Web Browser before 4.0. You
>> can try installing Trisquel 5.0 or use the Ubuntu PPA for
>> Icecat.
>>
>
> Hello:
>
> There's no need to use any Ubuntu PPA. GNU IceCat 5.0 *is*
> available in Trisquel own repositories.
>
>
I have Trisquel 4.0, 4.5 and 5.0, and I can't find IceCat anywhere.

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Luis Felipe López Acevedo
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jcairol,

In my opinion, as long as the SWF format specification continue to be
proprietary, free software users will always have a bad experience with
content served in that format. That's why Gnash won't work the same as the
Adobe Flash Player.

As for things like Flash Video Replacer, those kinds of scripts won't work
well for long because video Web sites seem to change the way they work, very
often. Maybe because they don't like people downloading the videos they
host?

If you care about freedom (I say to myself) you shouldn't give a damn about
SWF content in the Web. You should avoid it. Instead, wait for the free
alternatives to become stronger or make them be stronger.

Currently, I'm using Trisquel 4.01 and installed IceCat 5. For HTML5 video
to work on YouTube, I had to uninstall Flash Video Replacer and Gnash (I
hate that these come by default in Trisquel, they offer a bad user
experience, IMHO).

Respectfully,

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Michał Masłowski

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> In my opinion, as long as the SWF format specification continue to be
> proprietary, free software users will always have a bad experience
> with content served in that format. That's why Gnash won't work the
> same as the Adobe Flash Player.

Adobe published some specifications related to SWF, I don't know how
useful they are. Non-SWF-related things done by Gnash don't look simple.

> As for things like Flash Video Replacer, those kinds of scripts won't
> work well for long because video Web sites seem to change the way they
> work, very often.

Since August 2010 WatchVideo needed 7 changes to get videos from YouTube
due to their changes (TinyOgg used very similar code and needed similar
changes). I wouldn't call it "very often". Flash Video Replacer solves
a more difficult problem than just finding from where to get the video
file and opening it in a VLC-like media player, so it might need more
changes.

I like tools which get the video without running the scripts on the
site, since I have more control on what they do (and VLC has much better
interface than some YouTube-like sites) and my network is often too slow
to watch the video without downloading it completely before
(contributing to such programs is another reason).

> Maybe because they don't like people downloading the
> videos they host?

I don't see other reasons to not use HTML 5 video tags, with Flash for
just old browsers (would be simpler, work the same way on many sites,
and allow easily downloading the videos).

ivaylo
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A rejoint: 07/26/2010

В 11:54 +0200 на 29.08.2011 (пн), Michał Masłowski написа:

> Adobe published some specifications related to SWF, I don't know how
> useful they are. Non-SWF-related things done by Gnash don't look simple.

Gnash developers says it is useless, because it was already reverse
engineered.

>
> > As for things like Flash Video Replacer, those kinds of scripts won't
> > work well for long because video Web sites seem to change the way they
> > work, very often.
>
> Since August 2010 WatchVideo needed 7 changes to get videos from YouTube
> due to their changes (TinyOgg used very similar code and needed similar
> changes). I wouldn't call it "very often".

As I have some experience in the area I'll say few words. For nearly a
year Linterna Mágica needed around 4-5 major fixes for bugs in YouTube.
These prevented the extraction and playback of clips at all. Other
fixes, including different pages, were for minor inconveniences, which
were mainly caused by site style changes - part of the interface was
unreachable or hidden; displaced buttons, headers, video etc. I'm using
a regular expression approach and site specific stuff is as limited as
possible, so often small changes in pages do not affect Linterna
Mágica. There were only few working/supported websites that needed
special attention where playback and extraction broke entirely. I'm not
sure for myself if changes in websites are often or not, having an
observation over many pages. Maybe I'm just slightly in favor of "not
often".

ivaylo
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A rejoint: 07/26/2010

> Maybe because they don't like people downloading the videos they host?

Sites are not protected when they use proprietary technology either. It is possible to sniff the network traffic with tools like tcpdump and wireshark when the proprietary Adobe flash plugin is running, and then extract the clip from the dump or download it from extracted link in the dump. It is an imaginary protection.

> For HTML5 video to work on YouTube, I had to uninstall...

Linterna Mágica tries to respect the switch to HTML5 since version 0.0.10. All HTML5 players that are detected in websites have higher priority and are not treated and replaced as with flash players. Maybe other projects could also try this approach. File bug reports. I don't see how this could work for Gnash though.

Allan Javier Aguilar Castillo
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IntrosMedia wrote:
> [...]
>
> I have Trisquel 4.0, 4.5 and 5.0, and I can't find IceCat
> anywhere.

You have to install it first (be sure to enable updates for
Taranis and Slaine). It will be under the Internet menu.

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jcairol
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A rejoint: 08/09/2011

Blocked cookies on Youtube
Set FVR up properly
But still no video on Youtube :-(
I installed gnash because I didn't know it already came with Trisquel

SirGrant

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A rejoint: 07/27/2010

What browser are you using and what version? This is actually very important.

Adrian Malacoda

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FlashVideoReplacer is included by default, but it might not be an updated version. YouTube and other video sites constantly change how they embed video specifically to throw off things like download scripts and FVR. You can get the latest version from http://www.webgapps.org/add-ons/flashvideoreplacer to see if that will work.

You can also give Linterna Magica a try at http://linterna-magica.nongnu.org/

Also make sure that only one video player plugin (i.e. Totem, VLC, etc) is active. Apparently if more than one are enabled, they will conflict.

I've noticed that Gnash does work for me, but you have to go directly to the video page (i.e. make sure the URL has /watch?v=[videoid]) to use it. If you try to play a video straight from a user's profile page, Gnash fails to play. I think FVR and LM do too.

jcairol
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A rejoint: 08/09/2011

Thank you all for your efforts. It seems the problem is solved now after downloading the FVR add-on.

icarolongo
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A rejoint: 03/26/2011

Video with Flash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ

WebM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ&html5=1

Add &html5=1 at the end of URL.

But not all videos are WebM.