Mozilla is going to sell users data...
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https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e
https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e#commitcomment-153095625
"Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about “selling data“), and we don’t buy data about you. Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of “sale of data“ is extremely broad in some places, we’ve had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love. We still put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable) is stripped of any identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP)."
Anyway, I'm going to delete any Mozilla URL in about:config, block Mozilla domains with a hosts file and so on in my Firefox-based-browsers (Iceweasel and Librewolf)
It's a shame...
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I'm unable to edit my post.
It is done... (see attachment)
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/faq/
Don't you worry, it gets worse (it constantly gets worse with Mozilla Firefox): ( https://www.mozilla.org/about/legal/terms/firefox/ (or web.archive.org/web/https://www.mozilla.org/about/legal/terms/firefox/ if it gives a crappy captcha)):
> Mozilla can suspend or end anyone’s access to Firefox at any time for any reason, including if Mozilla decides not to offer Firefox anymore.
This seems highly illegal (unless trademark law has gotten restrictive enough that it can be used for such evil purposes) and is highly unethical as it tries to make Firefox even more proprietary than it already is, conflicting with the terms of copyleft license used on Firefox source code. How long until they add a backdoor to Mozilla Firefox so they can enforce the "Mozilla can suspend or end anyone’s access to Firefox at any time for any reason"?
> "Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about “selling data“)"
> the data that we share[1] with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable)
So "sharing"[1] data for commercial purposes is not selling?
Might as well call it Firepox, because their disregard for ethics is a disease
[1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#SharingPersonalData
I'm glad we have Abrowser and Trisquel so as to sidestep this whole mess.
It has been a long time since I used Abrowser on Trisquel but I remember that it also made some connections to Mozilla. These can be seen in about:networking and if I recall correctly were:
shavar.services.mozilla.com
push.services.mozilla.com
addons.mozilla.com, services.addons.mozilla.com and so on.
location.services.mozilla.com
Among others.
Who knows if they could sell even these info about us? Our IP, the addons we use, the time that the browser is used...
>"It has been a long time since I used Abrowser on Trisquel but I remember that it also made some connections to Mozilla. These can be seen in about:networking and if I recall correctly were:
>shavar.services.mozilla.com
>push.services.mozilla.com
>addons.mozilla.com, services.addons.mozilla.com and so on.
>location.services.mozilla.com
>Among others.
>Who knows if they could sell even these info about us? Our IP, the addons we use, the time that the browser is used..."
I don't see any such connecions in about:networking with Abrowser. Those are common connections that are made on Firefox though. I think you are confusing the two browsers - Abrowser is compiled by Trisquel's devs for greater privacy than stock Firefox.
Hi guys, bad news uh? No wonder...Sneakzilla...
I installed Trisquel on a MacBook 14,3 (had to borrow some driver from Ubuntu) and I was thrilled to try Abrowser for the first time.
I was though disappointed in seeing that Abrowser sends data to sneakzilla at first use. Why is that? Is there some sort of agreement with sneakzilla or law enforcement? This should be clear IMHO.
I detected it because i always run things for the first time in proxychains, and i saw what i saw.
Funny fact: after that i wanted to reproduce it so i removed the folder ~/mozilla/abrowser and try restarting Abrowser, but it did not happen again...
Is this by design? Are you aware of this?
I did not detect further transmission to mozilla since, but, for one reason or another, the trust is broken and i will stick to Icecat and Debian.
Chip
Do you remember the connections?
This could be fine in order to improve Abrowser privacy.
On the other hand, andyprough didn't find anything.
Could the browser only make connections the first time it's opened?
>Could the browser only make connections the first time it's opened?
That's what i thought, I'll try to reproduce it and let you know.
Unfortunately i can't recall which domain/url it was.
Chip
I am a translator!
> I detected it because i always run things for the first time in proxychains
I did not use proxychains before. Does it provide a log of all connections? Is it easier than checking using wireshark? Asking because I am interested to try and check.
yes it shows dns requests and connections.
There are other, better ways to run these checks but they require some preparation like network namespaces or mitmproxy.
Again proxychains is ok just for a quick check.
Chip
>"the trust is broken and i will stick to Icecat and Debian"
Well, Chip, seeing as how you are literally the developer that puts out all the IceCat binaries, why don't you take it up directly with Ruben rather than acting like an unbiased user in our forum? As you are well aware, Ruben works on both IceCat and Abrowser. It would seem as though the IceCat mailing list would be a better venue for discussing these between developers.
oh sorry i was indeed overacting.
Chip
Hello friends! Regarding this matter, what do you think about the Falkon browser? Which Trisquel repository browser do you think respects our privacy these days?