a second browser

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Gottfried
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A rejoint: 02/22/2022

Hi,
I have big trouble to log into my gmail work account.
I installed Trisquel 10 on my laptop at work and have unfortunately to use Gmail.
Abrowser und libre JS blocks everything,
so I needed today approx. 10 min to log into my gmail account, in allowing everything concerning javascript.

I installed KDE and which browser could I install additionally besides Abrowser, who doesn't block everything?
There was Firefox available.

Is there an other browser available?

In Guix there is Chromium (without Google) but I didn’t find it.

Gottfried

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A rejoint: 07/24/2010

Trisquel ships with Icedove, which is Thunderbird rebranded. See https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail for documentation.

Gottfried
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A rejoint: 02/22/2022

I installed Icedove but unfortunately I managed to use only only with one Email-adress.

But I have two Email-adresses and it was impossible to get it in Icedove.

I made some mistake during setting up and now I can't change that.

I already installed Icedove again, but it didn’t help.

Icedove doesn’let me to set up a second Gmail adress. I need both for work.

So I had to use Google, to log into my second Gmail adress and that’s why those problems I mentioned beforehand, that Abrowser doesn’ let me easily into my Gmail account.
So I want to have a second web browser, in case I need it.

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A rejoint: 07/24/2010

I have two Email-adresses and it was impossible to get it in Icedove.

It is possible. See https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1231574 for instance.

I made some mistake during setting up and now I can't change that.

Any configuration can be modified.

I already installed Icedove again, but it didn’t help.

If you really want to go back to Icedove's default configuration (and have to reconfigure everything, download all your emails again, lose those that you removed from the server, etc.), remove ~/.icedove (a hidden folder, since the name starts with a dot, in your home folder, "~").

Avron

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A rejoint: 08/18/2020

Abrowser und libre JS blocks everything,
so I needed today approx. 10 min to log into my gmail account, in allowing everything concerning javascript.

You can run multiple abrowser instances with a different profile at the same time, like one for accessing gmail and one for other activities.

Each profile has independent settings and extensions, so you can use a profile for gmail that has no extension. I do that and it works fine (I also have to access some gmail account).

To select the profile at launch or create a new one, use the -P option ("abrower -P'). I edited the menus to include that option.

Gottfried
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A rejoint: 02/22/2022

Hi Andy,

very much thanks for your info.

I managed to install a second profile for Abrowser, so I can use
Abrowser for gmail, in case I need it.

I also managed today to install a second email address in Thunderbird.
My problem was that Gmail sent a SMS for confirmation of adding a second
email address to a mobile phone, and this was the mobile phone of my
manager, because he created this email address for me.

So I can now use both email addresses, which I need for work through
Thunderbird and additionally I can use Abrowser with the two profiles.

I forgot, If I added LibreJS as an add-on in Abrowser, or if it was by
default installed.
May be I mixed it up with Guix, because there LibreJS is by default
installed in Icecat.

Through your and @Avrons email I think, I added it, because you both
said Abrowser doesn't include it.

In Guix there is ungoogled-chromium as a second browser available, which
I use in case I can't access websites with Icecat(with LibreJS).

So at the moment I don't need ungoogled-chromium at my work.
I know Vivaldi, but I won't use it right now.
I prefer GNU stuff.

What does "OP" mean?

Kind regards

Gottfried

> Agreed, Abrowser should work fine, just remove the LibreJS extension if that
> is what is causing the OP so much trouble. As you said @Avron, LibreJS isn't
> even installed by default on Abrowser, so that's the user's choice.
>
> Also, I can't recall if ungoogled-chromium ever resolved its rar licensing
> issue, but it should be a lot more libre than Vivaldi since it's still in the
> Guix repo. OP can download an AppImage of ungoogled-chromium from here:
> https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/
>
> If OP prefers to install ungoogled-chromium via the Guix package manager,
> instructions are here:
> https://trisquel.info/en/forum/installing-guix-trisquel-10-w-luakit-and-ungoogled-chromium
>

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Through your and @Avrons email I think, I added it, because you both said Abrowser doesn't include it.

I confirm: LibreJS is not installed by default in Abrowser.

What does "OP" mean?

Original Poster: https://www.howtogeek.com/698508/what-does-op-mean-online-and-how-do-you-use-it/

emmes
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A rejoint: 10/11/2022

Dear Gottfried,

Usually I try to stick to facts, but your post raised several issues that I am very opinionated about. I will share my opinions, even knowing that my opinions will likely be unpopular in this forum, and I hope that others will feel free to argue against my opinions, but will none-the-less be kind to me personally.
You say "Abrowser and LibreJS block everything". Although LibreJS has the strong backing of the FSF, which I emotionally and financially support, the specific group handling the LibreJS project, in my opinion, writes totally unpractical software. Their approach seems to be to write software as it should be once the messiah arrives and the world is perfect, with no consideration of how many things they might break in our less than perfect world.

Now onto my opinions about browsers. I think Abrowser is a very awkward browser to use and Firefox's "my way or the highway" approach is totally unacceptable. I apologize for using an American colloquialism. "My way or the highway" means we don't care what you like to do, if you don't like to do it our way, go to the highway and get out of our sight. Enough people have said it that it is probably true that Vivaldi is not truly libre software. Vivaldi claims that 99% of it is and admit they won't reveal the last 1%. My unpopular opinion is that Vivaldi is so much better at letting you do what YOU want, and is so much better than the libre alternatives, that I would encourage you to try it. It is probably the only non-libre software I use. I have installed its repository on Trisquel-10 and Trisquel-11 as well as PureOS Byzantium. Once you download their public signing key, it is just a matter of "apt update && apt install vivaldi-stable". Vivaldi is my only browser. I try to avoid it, but I successfully have used Vivaldi with Trisquel's javascript to access gmail.

Avron

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A rejoint: 08/18/2020

the specific group handling the LibreJS project, in my opinion, writes totally unpractical software.

LibreJS is not installed in abrowser as provided from Trisquel repository, if you want to use it, you have to add it manually. It is certainly painful to manually add exceptions but you don't have to use it. This is probably one reason why Trisquel provides abrowser rather than icecat.

I don't know anything about Vivaldi but - as it is provided by Trisquel - abrowser always worked fine for all websites for me, including gmail. I guess it won't work for things with DRM though.If you want to use services that require DRM, then indeed, Trisquel won't help you for that, but apart from that, saying that abrowser don't let you do what you want heavily contradicts with my own experience.

andyprough
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A rejoint: 02/12/2015

Agreed, Abrowser should work fine, just remove the LibreJS extension if that is what is causing the OP so much trouble. As you said @Avron, LibreJS isn't even installed by default on Abrowser, so that's the user's choice.

Also, I can't recall if ungoogled-chromium ever resolved its rar licensing issue, but it should be a lot more libre than Vivaldi since it's still in the Guix repo. OP can download an AppImage of ungoogled-chromium from here: https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/

If OP prefers to install ungoogled-chromium via the Guix package manager, instructions are here: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/installing-guix-trisquel-10-w-luakit-and-ungoogled-chromium

andermetalsh
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A rejoint: 01/04/2013

GMail has an HTML only mode, with no JS, but I didn't try:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/1pq68r75kzvdr/?v%3Dlui