SSH/SFTP to access free webhosting?

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elodie
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A rejoint: 01/31/2014

I'm making my own sites. Usually they are quite small, a few Megabytes in all. But the free providers I find are just spam generators: everything is unsafe. They email the password in plain, they lack even HTTPS. I am looking for a clean provider that is safe too.

Do you know any?

t3g
t3g
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A rejoint: 05/15/2011

Free as in price or free software? It's a confusing way to label software and now I know why people use the term open source.

lembas
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onpon4
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elodie
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A rejoint: 01/31/2014

Free as in zero money. Not that I cheap, which I am, but buying something online means plainly identifying yourself to anybody who wants to know.

leny2010

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A rejoint: 09/15/2011

If they're just a few MB then setting up your own server based on a cheap 'black box' and using a dynamic DNS service like no-ip.com is probably best (check your broadband/cable T&Cs though). That way you're guaranteed free software only. There was a free software friendly webhost, IIRC based in Belgium, mentioned on the forum a few years ago, but I can't find it again on a search.

Personally I use bluehost.com because of my ISPs T&C. Bluehost were recommended to me by a friend years and years ago. They're essentially sound. SSH access on sending in a scan/piccy of photo ID. Unlimited sites & databases, all the popular scripting languages, potted installs of things like Wordpess etc, and an acceptable 200K inode limit. However, all you have to do is add a few extras (I use domain reg anonimity, pro backup and pro-spam filtering) and the price quickly becomes less attractive. From the shell it seems their hosts might well be running their own tailored and managed version of Debian but I haven't double checked this inferrence.

If you're EU based read up on your local data protection laws before taking a webhost off soil.

elodie
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A rejoint: 01/31/2014

Sorry leny2010, but I move a lot. I can't host it myself. Most of the places where I stay there is no Internet either.

What do you mean by the last paragraph about data protection laws?

leny2010

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There's a EU Directove which has been implemented as law throughout the EU. In the UK it means if your system stores information which identifies individuals (e.g. for a website emails for login ids) then you have to do a bit of paperwork, and in certain circumstances pay a fee for a registration. Dunno the details of any other EU country but law will exist.

leny2010

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...However as far as the UK goes you'll exceed the requirements from standard best practice or the usual free software community's concern for the individual's right to privacy. So it's mostly paperwork, but the penalties can be draconian - so check.

icarolongo
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A rejoint: 03/26/2011

Web hosting services and companies using free software: http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Icaro

But if you want gratis web hosting you can search about it ("free vps", "free web hosting without ads", etc).

The last time I used one zero price web hosting was http://www.freewebhostingarea.com/ (without ads).

elodie
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A rejoint: 01/31/2014

icarologno that is precisely the kind of crap provider I meant. Those sites should not exist. Most probably they are spam houses or whatever. The whole registration and login is done over plan HTTP. The password is shown on screen, over a HTTP plan text page and the fields are well marked. I even get a plain text email to my address to tell me the whole thing, including the plain text password. There is only FTP, plain text FTP and all the credential have already shared in plain text so there's no security concern there.

The only good thing I find to this kind of crap provider is the fact that they do not offer SSH, as that might give a false sense of security.

icarolongo you have been cheated. That is a den of pirates. «What? Me? No, I was at the other station in this net cafe! And they have stolen my password! I have never seen those DVDs your honor!»

elodie
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A rejoint: 01/31/2014

Sorry guys,

Maybe I wasn't clear enough.

I am looking for secure and anonymous web hosting.

I'm no pirate to need 10Gb+ of hosting.

I'm no script kiddie to need all sort of CGI.

Anonymous means I can't host it at work.

Anonymous means I can't pay.

Yet, I'm not into kiddie porn so I am not looking for an illegal solution.

I am asking you all this because the search engines are bombed by sites like www.freewebhostingarea.com and page after page the decent hosters, which I am sure they still exist, are pushed back.

Plain text HTML, plain text CSS, both gzippable, maybe a few PNGs and JPEGs.

No database, no cross site scripting, no fingerprinting and counting. Sorry, I see people talking about free here all day long. They check the licence label like they are lifting the tail of a cat to make sure if it's a boy or a girl. And than talk about all sort of two bit sites using harmful code and harmful plugins. Again, sorry, but talking about unfree Javascript while having flash installed is plain stupid to me.

andrew
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A rejoint: 04/19/2012

> Anonymous means I can't pay.

Does it? You could use a host that accepts Bitcoin. Just register to one
with a fake name and address.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade#Web_Hosting

Andrew.

leny2010

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A rejoint: 09/15/2011

Try using the word gratis next time. Everybody here will know what
it means and at least in the UK its a loan word that's been in common
usage for ages and ages.

"Anonymous means I can't pay."

I don't have a direct answer to your question. However, there is
probably some paid web space in Switzerland you can buy in full
guarantee of anonimity backed up by their privacy laws (STFW).

AIUI in the UK you can use whatever name and address you like as long
as it's not in furtherance of a crime. So buying one of those
pre-paid 'credit' cards under an assumed name is quite possible if
you want anonymity. Maybe you can do that legally in your
jurisdiction too. If you are UK based then remember we have so many
CCTV cameras to all intents of purposes the panopticon is already
upon us. So your anonymity in buying the pre-pay card will still
have limits.

"> of two bit sites using harmful code and harmful plugins. Again,
sorry,"
"> but talking about unfree Javascript while having flash installed
is"
"> plain stupid to me."

Love your BS detector, please mail me one. :-)

icarolongo
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A rejoint: 03/26/2011

I found this:

alwaysdata - Free plan

Disk space: 10MB
RAM: 64MB
Traffic/month: 1GB
Price: Gratis (zero price)

Remote access

FTP - With or without SSL, unlimited users
SSH - Many tools and libraries
WebDAV- Mount a local network drive
SFTP, SCP

https://www.alwaysdata.com/plans/shared/

elodie
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A rejoint: 01/31/2014

When I have read your reply I said that was it. I went ahead and found out that they need all my credit card data, just to make sure. Obviously they will not bill me and they are going to delete the data as soon as possible. Only that if the sum is too small nobody would care anyway, not the bank, not the judge. Sorry. They're a scam and I do not trust them. Also this is not my kind of anonymous where I give my banking data.

I have also tried your wiki. The data is dated. Some have changed. Some I have no idea how you classified as open software users. A couple do not exist anymore. And the article about holding your own email server is plain crap.

icarolongo
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A rejoint: 03/26/2011
Legimet
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A rejoint: 12/10/2013

"Again, sorry, but talking about unfree Javascript while having flash installed is plain stupid to me."

That's why I disabled Gnash a few days ago. Almost all Flash code is nonfree.

icarolongo
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A rejoint: 03/26/2011
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