Tisquel Publicity
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I was reading one of the other posts about gNewSense being the #1 free software distro according to distrowatch. I think we should try to get Trisquel some more publicity. If you check (http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity) we have a long ways to the top. If anyone wants to join me lets move the bar. What I did was set the trisquel distrowatch page to my home page. That way once a day I hit the page. This is because distrowatch counts popularity based on how many daily hits the page receives. I figure if a few of us do that we could at least bump up a couple spots. Probably in the top 100. Anyone want to help?
I've set http://distrowatch.com/trisquel as my homepage.
BTW, has anyone been getting "The server at trisquel.info is taking too long to respond." messages lately?
Do we have an official report from trisquel gnu/linux
of
the number of .iso downloads of version 4.0?
This number would be more reliable.
Distrowatch does not base popularity on the number of downloads. If you read the site it says:
"The figures in the third column of each table represent the average number of hits per day for the specified period."
Meaning the more people that visit the Trisquel GNU/Linux page the higher it will show up on their popularity ranking.
I think what ninos is trying to say is that the number of Trisquel downloads would be a better measure of its popularity than its Distrowatch ranking.
Then again, it might be difficult to come up with such a figure, since a lot of those downloads probably happen through BitTorrent.
Yes, obviously that would be ideal judge of popularity. My point however though is if Trisquel was ranked highly on a popular website (such as distrowatch) we might get more publicity. I was suggesting that we could achieve that by simply visiting the page once a day.
We could possibly add a "please tell us why you installed/downloaded
Trisquel!" whenever someone installs the system. Sort of like
registration. Granted, those rarely work; I think that the FOSS
community would do that, though.
On 10/30/2010 02:13 PM, name at domain wrote:
> I think what ninos is trying to say is that the number of Trisquel
> downloads would be a better measure of its popularity than its
> Distrowatch ranking.
>
> Then again, it might be difficult to come up with such a figure, since
> a lot of those downloads probably happen through BitTorrent.
As a riff on Ninos comment, if one goes to Google/more/even more/trends and types into the search box "Linux" you will see an ongoing graph of what I "think" is "the number of times something was searched for".
If you then go to the search bar and enter "RedHat" you will see that the graph of searches for RedHat has trended down.
If you then type in Ubuntu, you will see that it is trending up and then levels off, kind of, with spikes when there are releases.
The big idea here is that the searches for the distros does seem to SOMEwhat indicate how a distro is trending.
So.... the developers could compare the number of downloads over the last "time frame" and if the numbers are going up, or at least trending level, with spikes during releases then things might be going pretty well.
If one types into the search Trisquel one sees a similar graph, it seems to go up and down but is staying relatively level.
So....back to the original idea of having Trisquel as a home page. Or going to Distrowatch.
The mere act of typing in the name does, it seems, add to things.
In the case of Google, they have a very complex algorithm for moving a site up or down in the returns for an item and some have said that they have an "unstated" policy of bumping up a new site that they think "has worth" or is "commercially helpful to them" to see what happens and then let it sink or swim, but that may be paranoia on the part of people who have said it.
So...given that if one searched once per day for "free Linux" then another person who used the same term might have a better chance of getting Trisquel as one of the higher choices if the website has the word "free" in the metatags.
That, of course would depend on what the developers want to have in the metatags, or the "first sentence" of the website.
If one goes to the main page of the site and right clicks in the left side and clicks "page source" one will see:
Trisquel GNU/Linux | Run free!
So, if one is wanting to SPECIFICALLY target people who want a Linux totally free of encumberance one might have the following text added to the above.
Use a Linux that is both easy and free of any commercial content."
What kind of sentence that would get a "general, non-linux" person interested I don't know, but it shouldn't be too hard to develop such a sentence.
I am in NO WAY trying to "tell the developers what to do" the above is just general discussion of the topic of the thread.
So setting one's home page to Trisquel would probably help in one way and going to DW would help in another and searching each day for it might help in another.
It is complicated.... :(
janus
> Do we have an official report from trisquel gnu/linux
> of the number of .iso downloads of version 4.0?
> This number would be more reliable.
That number is almost impossible to find, since we can't count direct
links to the mirrors. But I can tell the numbers I have for T4:
11609 downloads via trisquel.info/downloads
1044 downloads via torrent, which may or not be a subgroup of the
previous line.
As an example, Distrowatch publishes our announcements with a link
to /downloads (which we can measure), and they also put links to iso
files in our mirrors (usually FSF's) which we can't count.
Two ideas, and neither need to be done, they are just ideas.
a) do a tour of "groups" and "social networks".
b) additional branding to the name.
c) "releases" that are not "full releases" but "enhancement between releases" releases. :)
To expand:
a) set up Yahoo groups accounts in various languages. Set up Facebook accounts similarly. Also Twitter.
The PROBLEM: When these are done there might be a flurry of activity, but then somebody/or a team of somebodies, will have to commit themselves to the LONG HAUL of keeping the sites "fresh" with new content, etc. on a regular, basis with not much "lag" between times so that the person who looked at it and then went back a while later does not see an "old" site.
But, poco a poco, se va lejos! :)
b) Trisquel is a fine name, but for english speaking people, at least, it has to be "explained".
3M is known by many folks, as the people who make "Scotch tape" and "yellow sticky notes". However the name was changed only AFTER the company was a world wide presence. The name used to be Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing company.
That name informed the viewer very quickly where the company was and what it did.
GE: brings good things to life, used to be "General Electric". But again, the branding was changed after the company was already a world wide player.
So.... the question then is, for Trisquel .......what does the name "mean"?
a) it is "Linux" so that already means it is "free". The problem being what does "free" mean, a lot of people in Linux STILL think it means "free as in no cost" but also "free to change(which is better)" so just adding the word "free" wouldn't do much to make the "brand" stick out.
b) Changing the name completely, as in "Mandrake" to "Mandriva" is not a very qood idea, to me, at least because the name already has a history.
So the addition of a "term" might be an idea to attract attention when it is featured in the middle of the Distro Watch page when there is a new release.
So two items again:
c) add a term to the name
d) release more often.
c) "free" is common throughout Linuxdom so what about the "Libre" term. It means "free" in just about any language but also has the "cache" of "Libre software".
So a thought might be:
e) NOT:
Trisquel; Libre Linux
but rather:
Trisquel - a Libre Linux.
That might get people who really had not "thought" about it before to thinking about it..."Hmmmm, what IS Libre anyway?" and it immediaely associates Trisquel with "Software Libre", etc.
f) Increasing the number of releases. Something that has really occured to me the last few months is the number of times I see a Linux right smack in the middle of DistroWatch with a big release and down in the text I see something like:
"This isn't a major release, but it is a cleanup of some small things that the community brought up", You will see a better integration of the sound system with..etc. etc."
So, instead of "storing things up" for a "release" it would be "featured" at DW four times a year or three times, or whatever, for free and it really would have a valid reason for being so.
And then, once a year, or whenever, there could be a full bore release.
Just some thoughts.
janus
Janus just a heads up Trisquel is not just "linux" but it is "GNU/Linux". See (http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html) or (http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.es.html) if you prefer spanish. The analogy I like to use is if an operating system were a car linux might be the engine. While a key part for an operating system the engine is not the same thing as the whole car. That is the relationship between GNU and linux. Linux is not the whole operating system but when combined with the GNU system it forms one. Hence GNU/Linux or GNU + Linux.
Hi
I, sorry, I realized that just didn't type it. Sorry.
janus
> c) add a term to the name
The only thing we could think of doing is adding "Libre" to it, to make
it Trisquel GNU/Linux-Libre, since that is the kernel we use.
> d) release more often.
Indeed. But we had that plan already... :)
Today we are -officially- releasing the international DVD, and I hope
Distrowatch and such sites will publish our note. If we could keep
publishing new releases -edu and pro editions, Sugar TOAST edition,
etc- every 1-2 months, that would be the best way to increase
popularity, by being regularly shown in different media.
GREAT!!!
and
SUGAR TOAST!!! WITH CINNAMON!!! OH JOY, OH FRABBALOUS JOY!!! LOVE sugar toast!!!
janus
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