Updater Won't Update?

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Zem Mattress
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A rejoint: 05/08/2014

Hello all, Zem the novice here.

Trisquel Mini is installed on my older Dell laptop and has been working fine.

Except I cannot seem to get the updater to run. I know there have been some discussion about authentication issues in the recent past.

When I run the updater, it shows all the files that need to be installed (first update since Trisquel install) then I press "Install Now", the window shows "Installing Updates" for second, then the window disappears.

It doesn't ask for authentication.

Q: Is it updating 'in the background' ? Or did it just quit and I have to tweak something?

I tried several times with same result.

My "Software & Updates" prefs are set to "When there are security updates: 'Display Immediately'" and "When there are other updates: 'Display Immediately'".

Your thoughts are welcome.

Thank you.

Zem

SuperTramp83

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A rejoint: 10/31/2014

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
cheers

Zem Mattress
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A rejoint: 05/08/2014

Thanks! In process.

Isn't it a concern that the graphical updater doesn't work?

quantumgravity
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A rejoint: 04/22/2013

It is, and it would be great if you could file a bug.

However, I experienced problems concerning graphical updaters in many distributions.
The apt-get update routine is the safest one that always works, i guess.

Zem Mattress
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A rejoint: 05/08/2014

Okay. I did the sudo commands as you showed above.

However, I checked back with the 'Software Updater' and it still shows all 'Security Updates' as available. That is 'Trisquel Base', 'Other Updates' as yet installed.

Should I run the sudo update and install commands again?

Thank you.

Zem

SuperTramp83

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A rejoint: 10/31/2014

try this mate ->
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

GNUsercn
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A rejoint: 10/13/2015

- sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

Use, this also what I do daily in all of my distros. And never use those graphical stuff :)

Just thought such duplicate tools could be remove from Trisquel from shipping?

Since most of the users are geeks.

Magic Banana

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A rejoint: 07/24/2010

Trisquel aims to help all users be free in their computing. Not only geeks. However, geeks can choose the NetInstall and, on top of it, the set of packages they wish.

Zem Mattress
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A rejoint: 05/08/2014

Everyone thank you for the timely help.

YES: novice users would benefit greatly from updates pre-configured to 'automatic'.

I want to use Trisquel for ethical reasons, and support the movement, but my good intentions do not mean I know code or have the familiarity or time to "go under the hood" with efficacy. I have luckily had some small personal time to familiarize myself with GNU/linux systems - but just the very basics. Yes: this we might consider the very least one should do, but in reality for others they just need an OS to start working for them. Anything that makes Trisquel work "out of the box" for the masses I think is a good thing -IF the goal is to widen its use amongst the polis.

On to the problem at hand:

I did also just finish the '- sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' (ty GNUsrcn) and then followed the prompt to 'remove' outdated bits. All well and good.

But the graphical software installer STILL pops up, and STILL shows 'Security Updates' and 'Other Updates' (66.5MB worth) needing to be installed.

Q: Do I now activate the graphical updater and try to download the files indicated, or do I need to try some other line command?

Q: Or is the sudo commands working and I just ignore the graph updater ?

Thank you !

Zem

Zem Mattress
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A rejoint: 05/08/2014

Yow: I found I had inputed the above suggestion wrong and was not including the 'dist' in: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Okay: did it, and now I have this prompt:

A new version of configuration file /etc/default/grub is available, but │
│ the version installed currently has been locally modified. │
│ │
│ What do you want to do about modified configuration file grub? │
│ │
│ install the package maintainer's version │
│ keep the local version currently installed │
│ show the differences between the versions │
│ show a side-by-side difference between the versions │
│ show a 3-way difference between available versions │
│ do a 3-way merge between available versions (experimental) │
│ start a new shell to examine the situation

Yowch: what should I do? Choose: "Keep the local version currently installed". ?

Thank you.

- J

ADFENO
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A rejoint: 12/31/2012

Simply ask yourself: "Did I change something in grub.cfg?"

If so, "start a new shell to examine the situation", and COPY the
grub.cfg to the same place where it is, as grub.cfg.1.

After you're done, "install the package maintainer's version".

Zem Mattress
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A rejoint: 05/08/2014

I don't mind saying I barely know what a grub config is, and I would not muck with it on purpose. Therefor I personally didn't execute any changes.

So based on that I presume that the "local modification" noted is something that happened as a result of the updader requests in Terminal.

I just want the system to be up to date so I can get to work. So I should choose: 'Install the package maintainer's version", yes?

Thanks!

Zem

Magic Banana

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A rejoint: 07/24/2010

Go ahead.

Zem Mattress
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A rejoint: 05/08/2014

Cheers!

Thanks all. After I ran the sudo update command once more all seems fine and updated, and the graphical updater now shows no updates in queue.

Very MUCH appreciate the generous time you put in to help me through these small obstacles.

Zem

RealForce
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A rejoint: 10/22/2015

The Trisquel-team should make up their mind what they want to offer to the world.

Trisquel is the easiest of the recommended GNU/Linux distributions listed on the Free Software Foundation's website. Keeping your system up-to-date is essential. All four Trisquel-7.0 versions I tested offer a graphical "software updater" that does not do its job:

- trisquel-mini-7.0-amd64.iso the graphical updater stalls.
- trisquel-mini-7.0-i686.iso the graphical updater stalls.
- trisquel-7.0-amd64.iso the graphical updater leaves you with another 33.7 MB of packages to download when you run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade afterwards.
- trisquel-7.0-i686.iso the graphical updater leaves you with 69.9 MB of packages to download when you run sundo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade afterwards.

Therefore, the graphical "software updater" should be removed and it should be clearly stated that users have to use the following commands using the commandline: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade!

The combination sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade just wouldn't get the job done completely.

Magic Banana

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A rejoint: 07/24/2010

Therefore, the graphical "software updater" should be removed and it should be clearly stated that users have to use the following commands using the commandline: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade!

The "graphical software updater" had better be fixed and/or configured differently.

Zem Mattress
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A rejoint: 05/08/2014

Yes. As an "end user" I relate to a graphical interface by habit, but if such a necessary tool simply doesn't work its going to cause some real frustration or worse turn the average user off Trisquel who might otherwise find a refuge in it.

amenex
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A rejoint: 01/03/2015

What works for this less-than-a-year user of Trisquel 7 is to run Software Updater from the GUI whenever I feel like it, and then run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade immediately thereafter, just to fill in the blanks. It's entertaining to see whether Software Updater asks for authentication (not when it's just a security update).

What we all could use is an "Are your sure ?" response from the console when (absent mindedly) running sudo apt-get upgrade without first running sudo apt-get update.

It helps not to become alarmed when sudo apt-get update says that a file is not available, as we sometimes ask too soon while the repository itself is getting updated. Wait a few minutes and try again.

These update/upgrade routines are awesomely reliable. Thanks to all who make that possible.

evoblade
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A rejoint: 10/25/2015

I'm having the same problem, the graphic updater quits silently with no error message. Also, if I try to run Synaptic Package Manager, nothing happens (from the menu). If I start it from the terminal with sudo synaptic it works fine. I will be happy to file bug reports if there are not already ones existing.

Ra
Ra
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A rejoint: 07/23/2014

Just have a look at the existing issues. There's a not so old one called "Synaptic will not start graphically".
But the problem there is more general, and the fix is here:
http://trisquel.info/de/issues/15394
You need a polkit, either lxpolkit or policykit-1-gnome.