Will Trisquel be based on Debain in the future?
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I'm just wondering as Trisquel removes the multiverse repository from Ubuntu which also contains a lot of useful free software. It would probably be better to use Debian as the non-free packages are contained in the non-free repository. Also, the Linux kernel in Debian can be used as they switched to a binary-blob free kernel.
> I'm just wondering as Trisquel removes the multiverse repository from
> Ubuntu which also contains a lot of useful free software. It would
> probably be better to use Debian as the non-free packages are contained
> in the non-free repository. Also, the Linux kernel in Debian can be used
> as they switched to a binary-blob free kernel.
At least some of the free software in multiverse is there due to patent
issues which aren't a problem for Trisquel, so writing which packages
are in multiverse and could be included here could be useful.
Debian has in main packages licensed under the original Artistic License
which is considered non-free by FSF and Fedora, but not by Debian. So
it won't be so simple.
The kernel in Debian shows the name of the non-free firmware files
included in other packages which would be used by the drivers, thus
recommending using them. Linux-libre doesn't do it.
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Thanks for replying. Here is a list of what I use that is in multiverse that is free software:
Avidemux (great for trimming video)
SMplayer (relies on Mplayer but works fine with Trisquel's version of Mplayer)
Gecko MediaPlayer (ditto)
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I think basing Trisquel off Ubuntu is a great idea. One can use their huge wiki and the forums for troubleshooting and Ubuntu updates more often than Debian, so you get newer packages.
Imho the only advantage Debian has is the "real" root account with his own password. If you really want that - use Debian, they are almost 100% free right now. Just my 2 cents.
> I think basing Trisquel off Ubuntu is a great idea. One can use their
> huge wiki and the forums for troubleshooting and Ubuntu updates more
> often than Debian, so you get newer packages.
Good arguments, although it's not always easy to find if something on
Ubuntu wiki can be done without using non-free software.
> Imho the only advantage Debian has is the "real" root account with his
> own password. If you really want that - use Debian, they are almost 100%
> free right now. Just my 2 cents.
You can use "sudo passwd" to have a "real" root account on Trisquel. I
prefer using sudo, since then I don't have completely separate contexts
for user commands and shell line editing works (although not
world-listable directories and output redirections aren't friendly for
such use).
El 23/03/11 09:23, name at domain escribió:
> I think basing Trisquel off Ubuntu is a great idea. One can use their
> huge wiki and the forums for troubleshooting and Ubuntu updates more
> often than Debian, so you get newer packages.
>
I thought Ubuntu's frequent releases were based on Debian's testing releases
> Imho the only advantage Debian has is the "real" root account with his
> own password. If you really want that - use Debian, they are almost
> 100% free right now. Just my 2 cents.
>
I suspect Ubuntu introduces much more non free software than Debian
making cleaning more complicated.
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hmm, it's true that cleaning Debian should be easier. For the record, I'd use Trisquel if it were Debian based anyway. As long it doesn't mean a huge throwback in terms of versions of popular programs I don't care.
My personal preference is being able to use aptitude and have a good looking logo. I'm not a beginner any more and don't really require some special forums and wikis to get stuff done, so as long as aptitude and a good logo are there, I'm happy : )
As far as I understand, quidam does not start from Ubuntu's default install. He only reuses Ubuntu's packages to build Trisquel. Since aptitude is in Ubuntu's repository, having it by default in Trisquel would not be harder using Ubuntu's packages than using Debian's.
This could take less releases, but higher quality. So save time and could concentrate on other things.
>I thought Ubuntu's frequent releases were based on Debian's testing releases
But, Ubuntu does not have the same stability of Debian.
It's a good idea, I like it.
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Linux Mint (whose philosophy with regards to Software Freedom is completely on the opposite side of the spectrum than ours by the way) is based on Ubuntu, but now also provides a Debian-based version : LMDE. It's based on Debian Testing, and from what I understand, is supposed to provide the exact same look-and-feel to the end user than the Ubuntu-based versions. The main and important difference is that this is a rolling release : install it once and you'll never have to do it again! I suppose that you also get newer versions of the programs, at the cost of stability.
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>The main and important difference is that this is a rolling release : install >it once and you'll never have to do it again!
That's the best of Debian. Of course.
>I suppose that you also get newer versions of the programs, at the cost of >stability.
Actually no, I prefer stability over everything. I do not mind having a system for some outdated. Working mainly in text mode, so my needs are certainly much smaller and simpler.
Still, that's just my opinion. I live happy in the LTS :D
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The next gNewSense will be based on Debian, so I think it would be useless to have two free distributions based on the same thing, they would be more or less the same. I also prefer stability rather than newer versions, but I see that my Taranis is very stable, so in my opinion Trisquel is perfect as it is now!
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When will the next version of gNewSense be released?
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