"Where are the advocates of freedom in the new digital society who have not been decried as pirates, anarchists, communists?"

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I'm still interested the values behind free software, and free culture that I understand less, and their possible extrapolations to a wider view of politics (not limited to software for example)

For example, see the 5th point here:
http://www.getgnulinux.org/en/linux/misunderstanding_free_software/

Then I find this, which doesn't directly answer the question (no matter how trolling or ad-hominem it is):
http://emoglen.law.columbia.edu/my_pubs/dcm.html
Nor does it go against it. I need to read it again though, it's quite dense.

And this comment was interesting:
"Free software is something new, and cannot be categorized well in the older terms. In a paraphrase of Richard Stallman, free software borrows a little bit from socialism, from capitalism, and from anarchism, and adds a little twist of its own.
Free software removes a counterproductive state imposed restriction on individuals, the restriction on copying and modifying. It also requires published source, allowing easier modification. This allows the non-material resources to be competitively adapted and shared without artificial barrier, and makes a healthy software market, where ideas compete on their merits, without restrictions on competition. Since copyright essentially wrecks the usability of software in obvious ways, adopting free software is a no-brainer. The resulting market is vastly superior to the closed corporate software world.
The result is only "communist" in that a class of property which has been artificially created by state licensed monopoly is eliminated. If you call that communist, your definition is pretty loose. But it is anti-corporate, in that large corporations that sell closed software suffer, and it tends to favor individuals and smaller firms, which are able to compete fairly, and then run circles around the big guys.
So this is a model for reducing the undue power of large corporations. When the artificial restrictions and tricks which guarantee their advantage is removed, they wither away. Pehaps by repeating this trick, other large corporations can be reduced in power, simply by making the ground level enough for others to compete fairly."
http://www.quora.com/Is-free-open-source-software-communist

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Why do I insist on this?
First because I've seen people using avatars with the anarchist "A" logo, and I've seen a t-shirt sold on thinkpenguin with the copyleft logo with a communist color scheme.
From the page: "Support copyleft in public with this communist inspired skin of the copyleft logo. Communism is hard with material things, but it's easy with information!"
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/copyleft-t-shirt

I still think it hurts/limits free software adoption in the image it broadcasts that way.
I think it's important to clearly separate how free software might have a left/extreme left inspirations, but also how it doesn't imply that such political system (I'm thinking extremes in particular) are fully linked to free software, and free culture.

I'm a free software user. I could even accept free culture to some degree (I mix culture with art and entertainment here), provided it's possible to make a living of that somehow.
But I don't want to be perceived as a communist or an anarchist by association, even if such an association isn't justified.
no matter what my personal political orientation is, just because some of these hand-picked ideas apply to the software/computing world doesn't mean free software should imply (wrongly IMO) specific political orientations. Not patenting maths or air or water isn't a struggle that belongs to specific political orientations.

So I know it's not exactly a free attitude to ban some avatars (or trolls). but I wonder if it's not a good idea.
The Trisquel community guidelines are against ideology discrimination.
So is it disrespect to discourage political ideology display on the forum (and globally around the free software community)?
Or is it disrespect to show it in a shared space between people with different backgrounds/ideologies?

Bottom line is I don't enjoy the possible wrong association that can be made between free software and such and such political ideology.
My opinion is that although it can be discussed, outside of the troll hole, people should keep their political ideology to themselves.

Even if we can probably agree that free software/culture and hardcore/savage capitalism don't go hand in hand at all,
I think of free software like free water or air, not like some specific political agenda.

So guys, keep it to yourself please. If not for the stated reasons, at least not to deter some new users. And also not to give ammo to dishonest rhetoric against free software.