32 bit free (as in freedom) OS
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Trisquel 10 i686 does not exist, so what 32 bit free (as in freedom) OS do you suggest for my old notebook HP510 after 2023 April? This question because Parabola GNU-Linux seems in the same condition; indeed I don't see a 32 bit iso image (404 Not Found - nginx/1.16.1).
I would wait and see whether Aramo comes in 32-bit flavor, as has been hinted.
Else I would try this: https://www.gnuinos.org/mirror/chimaera/live
GNUINOS is interesting. I don't know and find Aramo, can you, please, give me a link? Thank you!
> Aramo
All I know is this, I swear:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-support-32-bit-hardware.
Some spoilers ahead:
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/aramo
El 2022-10-27 07:38, name at domain escribió:
> Some spoilers ahead:
> https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/aramo
I see it will not support 32 bit and will be based on Ubuntu. Those are
dealbreakers for me.
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It's all right with me.
It's all right except that it feels a bit like we are being spoiled.
ARM, really?? Do we have any idea which devices it might be able to run on? Pinebooks possibly?
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I suppose so, also the devices sold by Pine64 based on Rockchip chips, a number of Olimex devices based on Allwinner chips (including TERES-I), perhaps MNT reform at some point. Bill Auger already installed Trisquel on the Olinuxino Lime 2 but that isn't a well documented process at the moment I think.
A Pinebook Pro with an Atheros usb wifi dongle should be fairly free hardware, at least for a modern(ish) device. I think the graphics have gotten free drivers over the past year.
I would choose Debian GNU/Linux without the contrib and nonfree sections of the repository, with jxself's Linux-libre and with Abrowser:
I recommend use Trisquel 9 or install Parabola or Hyperbola or GNU Guix, all them are free distros https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html distros like Debian distribute, recommend and share nonfree software, please dont help to your enemy say no to nonfree software!
Using Trisquel 9 Etiona after it becomes unsupported (after April 2023) is a very bad idea and is not recommended.
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> This question because Parabola GNU-Linux seems in the same condition; indeed I don't see a 32 bit iso imag
I have that iso on my disk, downloaded on September 5 2022 and used successfully to install parabola on a 32-bit notebook. I reported the broken links on IRC, let's see.
It works (using LXDE, netsurf, iceweasel, claws-mail) but gajim and dino (or any graphical XMPP client I found) does not work due to a too old version of one lib, whose newer version is only in the testing repository, that is not advised for general use. So I am learning to use profanity, which is a bit of effort but it is very light on resources, works well and is highly flexible.
EDIT: I tried to install gajim again, it works, so there is progress. Still, pacman complains about the omemo plugin package signature, I'll ask about that.
The Parabola GNU-Linux iso image with systemd and LXDE is no longer available at this time (see https://wiki.parabola.nu/Get_Parabola point 2.2.1).
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You can still get it at https://mirror.fsf.org/parabola/iso/parabola-2021.08.11/parabola-2021.08.11-dual.iso
However, the keyring is out-of-date so you will have to first deactivate signature checking to update the keyring packages and then, you can reactivate it and further install/update things.
I understand that making an iso with up-to-date keyring is on the todo list now, and this is why the link on the wiki was removed (although the iso images with outdated keyring are still in the repositories).
By the way, after installing the OMEMO plugin for gajim from parabola repository, gajim works again.
I wonder if you can do "debian from scratch", but in this case, Trisquel and just compile all the packages.
I also recommend removing SystemD.
You would basically end up with GNUinos at that point.
That feels essentially true. In fact I already had a similar feeling about "Debian GNU/Linux without the contrib and nonfree sections of the repository, with jxself's Linux-libre and with Abrowser." Why not just install Abrowser on Gnuinos?
I am going to try that apt-pinning script on Gnuinos. This is now slightly off-topic, though, since I am on 64-bit systems. But if it works flawlessly, and I see no reason why it would not, then there would be no need to go through the hassle of doing manually to a Debian base what Gnuinos has already done for us. Could we not do without systemd? I see no reason to cling to it, no more than to shun it. And vice versa.
That went well, did not break anything. Only I stumbled into the same error as reported there:
https://github.com/yktoo/indicator-sound-switcher/issues/113
Currently using the default IceCat browser but may give a try to that DeeDeeRanged script at some time in the foreseeable future. Should abrowser-on-debian.txt be temporarily retired?
The GNUinos Icecat should be basically the same as the Trisquel Abrowser, unless it has fallen behind in its updates. If it is up-to-date, I would not see any particular reason to switch to Abrowser. They should both be getting built from Firefox using essentially the same build scripts and options.
IceCat is currently 78.15.0esr on Gnuinos. This is a parallel universe to Abrowser.
Ohhh, that sounds old. When was it last updated, can you see?
About a year ago, give or take a few months.
But there is also some great other news: I am the same very stupid person as the other day and I failed to completely walk back all my steps, and in fact the script works flawlessly - if one simply remembers to install wget. I believe it is in fact the only thing needed, apart from the usual update and upgrade.
I am posting this final message to the world before tying a stone to my neck and diving into oblivion from Abrowser 105.0 on a live 64-bits Gnuinos 4.0 Chimaera session. Farewell, cruel apt-pinning world.
No need for any stone-neck-diving behavior, here, have an up-vote, cheer up. You can use up-votes to get free Starbucks coffees and free airline flights, did you know that?
Well, I am now posting from Abrowser 105.0 on a rock solid unshakeable Trisquel install, so I believe this is the oblivion side of the Gnuinos live session, which itself went into oblivion from our installed point of view. Even oblivion has to have a reverse side, I suppose.
Thanks for your generous vote anyway, I'll need it to convince my bike shop to give me a new pair of tires for free. Did you know that bicycle inner tubes can burst just to remind you that your tire and rim tape both need replacing? Today was my burst day in the transportation calendar, I guess I was fortunate not to have been using a car or a pipeline.
My rear tire on my bicycle shredded right after I passed through a busy car intersection one day back in August. I was fortunate that it waited until I had cleared the intersection before it decided to fragment into an un-ridable mess. (Is un-ridable a word? DuckDuckGo says "unrideable", but that looks odd to my eyes.)
Of course, I simply took my Trisquel forum up-votes into the bike shop and got my new tire and inner-tube for free. They offered me a free bike, but I decided to hold some of my up-votes for a trip to see Carnival in Rio de Janeiro.
Sorry for this slight off-road, but I felt an urgent need to inform you that Gnuinos 5.0.0 Daedalus preview ships with IceCat 91.6.0esr, which indeed feels very similar to Abrowser 105.0 on Trisquel: https://www.gnuinos.org/mirror/daedalus/live.
Pray continue the crazy carnival stuff, sorry for the interruption.
Don't worry, Prospero. Thank you for the information and.... join in the student spirit of the carnival! Ciao
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