[AI] Could FSF use AI to complete and develop the GNU kernel, Hurd/Mach?

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useresu
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Beigetreten: 04/18/2026

I just though of that.

jxself
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Beigetreten: 09/13/2010

No.

And Hurd's already completed anyway. Go download & use it already - https://guix.gnu.org/en/download/latest/

useresu
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Beigetreten: 04/18/2026

That's a virtual machine image, not a ISO image for running the Hurd on a computer from the USB stick. That isn't being "complete" in the completest sense.

jxself
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Beigetreten: 09/13/2010

Go run it on real hardware then. For example: https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2024/hurd-on-thinkpad/ Since even then, Hurd supports x86-64. The Guix installer lets you select Hurd.
https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2026/the-64-bit-hurd/ They have it marked as experimental (in Guix). It's time to stop treating Hurd as if it's some mythical vaporware. :) Go use if you're interested in doing so - It has some neat features. The status section there has interesting data and links. Like the FOSDEM talk. And "Debian GNU/Hurd has been a reality for some years now, reaching 75% of Debian packages being available for the Hurd." So most of Debian main runs on Hurd.

Give_Me_Libre_Or_Give_Me_Death
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Beigetreten: 02/24/2026

The GNU Hurd is ready, but it needs drivers to become compatible with a wider range of devices than it currently does support. NetBSD's Rumpkernel helps solve this issue. There was a report of a contributor using claude code, so it is not like they haven't thought up with this idea. The problem is the sustainability of AI code. I think there is too little manpower to handle all the sloppy code.

gnufairy
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Beigetreten: 04/09/2026

The GNU Hurd and Mach are developed by the GNU project. These devs absolutely full stop will not run non-libre software. This greatly complicates the use of AI. Okay you say, run it locally. But remmember, that would mean using a newer computer with an IME and non-free drivers. So this at the moment is just impossible.

Plus, Debian GNU/Hurd (use the expert install to get a fully free system), has even on 64bit Xorg and Wayland working fully. So clearly the kernel works it just needs free drivers for which they just don't have the devs.