Does free internet connection exist today?

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GrevenGull
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Beigetreten: 12/18/2017

You can get LibreCMC on routers, but you have to have a modem, right? A modem you usually get from your ISP. And that modem could consist of all kinds of stuff, right?

So even though you have a pc with Trisquel and router with LibreCMC, the modem is still lurking around, right?

GrevenGull
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Beigetreten: 12/18/2017

I cam across this https://h-node.org/modems/view/en/458/Xilinx-Corporation-Device-0300/1/1/undef/undef/undef/undef/compatibility-desc/undef

So, if you have a pc with trisquel, router with librecmc and that modem right there with solos_pci, then and only then you are freely connecting to Internet?

loldier
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Beigetreten: 02/17/2016

It's possible to have a wall outlet with Ethernet without any physical private or personal routers in the room. Plug in a cable and you're connected through the PWD in the basement of your block of flats. Free or not, it shouldn't matter as it's not your hardware to begin with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiring_closet

GrevenGull
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Beigetreten: 12/18/2017

So I can just plug an ethernet cable into the wall outlet and connect it to my pc/router?

Now why do the whole shabang with modem and ISP, then?

This seems to good to be true...

loldier
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Beigetreten: 02/17/2016

It depends on

1. If you have a subscription (payable in the monthly maintenance fee or rent)
2. Your house has Ethernet cabling (WAN)

Please do note that you'll only have Internet next to the Ethernet outlet, usually one computer at a time. For a home network between multiple computers/rooms and wifi you'll need a router.

GrevenGull
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Beigetreten: 12/18/2017

I see this is really interesting!

But the router would be "no problem" though, because I have two routers laying around which is supported by LibreCMC.

But what is the "subscription" you are talking about?

Subscription to the the cables running around the block and in the ground?

loldier
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Beigetreten: 02/17/2016

It's perfectly possible to have cabling and no internet if it's disconnected. You need to subscribe and pay. Sometimes it's all included in the rent.

GrevenGull
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Beigetreten: 12/18/2017

So the "subscription" you are talking about is an ISP of some sort or "cable maintenance people"?

strypey
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Beigetreten: 05/14/2015

It all depends what kind of internet connection you have, and who your carrier is. If you are using dial-up, with an external modem, I presume there is no proprietary hardware involved. Some broadband providers allow you to connect directly using your own router, if it has the right jacks for the kind of cabling they use. When we had giabit fibre connection, both the modem and router were owned by the carrier, so technically we were not using proprietary software on computers we owned, regardless of what was running inside that router and modem.

GrevenGull
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Beigetreten: 12/18/2017

what is "dial-up" and what do you mean with "external modem"?

>Some broadband providers allow you to connect directly using your own router

Yeah, just connect your own router with LibreCMC straight into the outlet, right? This should work if the ISP is okay with it.

> When we had giabit fibre connection, both the modem and router were owned by the carrier, so > technically we were not using proprietary software on computers we owned, regardless of what > was running inside that router and modem.

True that. I should have specified my question.

What goes on with the cables once they leave your building, you have no control over, but you have control over what enters your building.

But yeah, I think I have the answer to my original question, and that is yes, free internet connection is possible, but it depends on what ISPs operate in your given area and whether or not they are cool with you connecting your own router straight in the outlet.

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Beigetreten: 07/24/2010

Dial-up modems are literately dialing up the Internet provider: the packages transit on the telephone line. It was by far the most popular way to access the Internet until the early 2000s:

In 2000, dial-up Internet connections accounted for 74% of all U.S. residential Internet connections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem

strypey
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Beigetreten: 05/14/2015

I think we're showing out age here MagicBanana ;) Many of the people on this forum will not be old enough to have used a landline at home, let alone a phone with a rotary dial on it, instead of numbered buttons:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/New_Zealand_Rotary_Telephone.jpg/220px-New_Zealand_Rotary_Telephone.jpg

Because of this old style of completely analogue telephone, calling someone on a phone used to be talked about as "dialling" their number, even when it started to be done by pushing buttons.

So internet connections that work using a modem that calls a phone number, and transfers data across the POTS using sound, are called "dial up" connections. There are a surprising number of people still using dial-up, either because they live in areas where the cabled network doesn't support broadband well (or at all, as in a lot of rural areas), or where there is so little competition among broadband ISPs is prohibitively expensive, or in some cases they just don't use the net much and haven't bothered to upgrade.

GrevenGull
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Beigetreten: 12/18/2017

But what exactly is the purpose of a modem anyway?

If you can connect a router straight in the outlet?