Facebook Communication
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If one has to communicate via Facebook (unfortunately), is it better to access it via a web browser on a PC or via the Messenger application on a mobile device (iOS/Android), or is the effect of using either method the same?
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I never used Facebook. Yes, I am brilliant ;-)
Or anything related to it.
That being said, and that is actually the gist of my interjection... I guess if you use it via browser you will need to allow their proprietary javascript in order to use it. I also guess the the application (program is the correct Angrish word) you use on the wisephone (mob wise, although a wise guy is wise enough not to use a wisephoon) is proprietary malware. :P
So, I guess, only guess, a wiser way of doing it would be via a dedicated libre client. A brief searx offered the following -> https://github.com/sindresorhus/caprine
I would also guess a popular thingy like facecrap and it's messanger has several free software clients, so maybe do a research on it before installing caprine. Maybe there's a better alternative.
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Facebook through a heavily fortified browser, using the non-javascript version is the best way to do it. They are out to data-mine as much information from you as much as Google. Remember, they too are primarily an Ad company.
I would never put any of Facebook's applications on a phone. They ask to have access to everything, giving them access to some of your most intimate data. This is also why I don't use a Google phone. This includes Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram to name a few. To find out what Facebook's application has access to, one just needs to look at what permissions it's permitted to see.
Unless you have a phone with some sort of way to block applications from doing so, then I wouldn't even run it on there. Remember the have forced people on mobile devices to use their application versions because they have more fine-grained control on what information they can mine from you.
Of course, the best Facebook is no Facebook.
grimlok
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>using the non-javascript version
I doubt the messenger will work without js. Does it?
It actually does.
How does grimlok's suggestion compare to accessing Facebook via Tor Browser (https://m.facebookcorewwwi.onion/)? Both load the non-JS mobile version of Fb.
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I'm surprised. I'm also asking myself why would Faceslap allow anonymous usage of their datamining platform?
Can you create an account anonymously? That is, can you go on the link you posted above and actually sign up for an account? Would that require any javascript?
When logging in to Facebook via Tor for the first time, in order to verify that you really are the person that's trying to log in with the particular details, Fb asks you to correspond the name (out of a list of a couple) of a friend to a picture of a face (a testament to their face recognition capabilities or simply the "tag" option).
There is a "Create an account" link available, and it seems, after clicking it, that it is feasible to create a Fb account via Tor without using JS. I suppose the amount of information that Fb is able to collect about one will betray one's anonymity, anyway. Personally, I found out about the Tor link via rms (https://stallman.org/facebook-presence.html).
Immaterial Labour and Data Harvesting, Facebook Algorithmic Factory (1)
https://labs.rs/en/facebook-algorithmic-factory-immaterial-labour-and-data-harvesting/
UK investigates Facebook over data breach, to raid Cambridge Analytica, March 20, 2018
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-cambridgeanalytica/uk-investigating-facebooks-response-to-alleged-data-breach-idUSKBN1GW0WX
Grimlock:
>> This is also why I don't use a Google phone. <<
What kind of phone do you use, given that iThings are even worse than Androids? Genuinely curious, since as I mentioned in another thread I'm looking for some kind of handheld device.
>> They ask to have access to everything, giving them access to some of your most intimate data. <<
I thought the same thing, but my wife recently bought a recent model Android device, and the newer versions of Android give users much more granular control over permissions. In same cases, you have to give a lot of permissions to install the app, but you can turn off any or all of those permissions after installation (although in some cases that might affect how well the app works). If you go offline while installing, and only go back online after turning off the permissions you don't want the app to have, you're probably pretty safe from having your data slurped up during installation.
>> Of course, the best Facebook is no Facebook. <<
Most people I talk to have now come around to this way of thinking. Many of them were newbies who didn't realise the net, the web, and FarceBook were actually different things, and though us FB critics were basically asking them to stop using the net (or replace their web browser with some command line thingy). Now they are starting to understand it's possible to do all the same things using other platforms, the main challenges in front of us now are helping test and improve the UX of the various FB replacements (Hubzilla, Friendica, Diaspora, SocialHome etc), and recruiting our families, friends, companeros, and colleagues, to use them.
BTW I am really excited about Hubzilla as a possible FB-killer. It has the largest feature-set out-of-the-box, and is easily extensible, and federates with all the major protocols (OStatus, Diaspora, ActivityPub, and its own Zot, which is ground-breaking). More about this here:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/hubzilla-ground-breaking-federated-blogging-forum-remote-storage-server
I use Abrowser with most of the settings checked on the home page, including "Disable JavaScript" and connect to m.facebook.com
It works well enough for me. Typically, I just want to see event info and maybe some baby photos. Messaging still works.
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You can also message via pidgin (using purple-facebook). I haven't tested it as I don't have an active account.
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