Here's the WebM for Ruben's interview on LAS
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http://201406.jb-dl.cdn.scaleengine.net/las/2015/linuxactionshowep349-432p.webm
32:05 mark if you want to fast forward
I get a 404. What's up with that?
Same here. It was working an hour or so ago, what happened?
Same here.
Trust me guys, the link worked before as I watched the interview. I don't know why it would be down all of a sudden since it was edited and put up on the CDN.
EDIT: It's up now.
That's just weird. It's back up, and I'm downloading it now.
I am a translator!
thx
I did watch the show and honestly, Ruben got his moment of Glory with Trisquel 7.
This interview was straight forward, Well spoken and did answer a lot of my questions about the project overall.
I kind like the project plans for the future and the momentum the trisquel project is gaining. I decided to downloaded version 7.
Good pointer, Trisquel is been more diversified among a few developers.
PS
You will get my donation this year.
I got to agree, that hearing from Ruben, a KDE desktop is on the hands of a volunteer developer already. I believe it will a short time before is real.
One of the objectives for the projects was to convert, the developers into a full time job.
The money is not there yet. Is enough to sustain part time developing, while working full time in other jobs. That was cut and dry and very honest about it.
Myself, I have no problems with it, we all have mouths and desires to feed our needs.
The question that I ask?
If you are a independent developer, What is the range of the salary that a full time developer accept?.
Outstanding interview!
Glad Ruben is in charge of IceCat, perhaps this will become the new standard across the various GNU/Linux distros, completely free or otherwise. Would like to see Debian adopt this browser as an additional option.
What are your thoughts about Trisquel, perhaps going back to Debian (Debian Testing), instead of Ubuntu, especially since Ubuntu is becoming more and more like Windows and Apple?
I believe the current situation covers quite well the stability spectrum:
- gNewSense is based on Debian stable (at the cost of having rather dated versions of the programs): http://gnewsense.org
- Trisquel is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian testing (so its programs are a little more dated than those in Debian testing but it is more stable).
- Parabola is based on Arch, a rolling-release distribution, and is cutting-edge (latest versions of the programs at the cost of stability): https://www.parabolagnulinux.org
I do not really know what you mean by "Ubuntu is becoming more and more like Windows and Apple" but I do not think it affects Trisquel in any way. Ubuntu is a Trisquel's base in the sense that the vast majority of the packages in Trisquel's repositories come from the Ubuntu repositories. Only free software package are copied though. Ubuntu's default install does not influence Trisquel's default install.
"gNewSense is based on Debian stable"
Sadly, that's not true. The latest stable release "Gnewsense 3.0 'parks'" is based on Debian squeeze, which is oldstable.
The current stable version is "wheezy" and afaik the new version of Gnewsense will be based on it.
Sounds like good news at first, but i'm afraid that the testing version of Debian ("Jessie") is already frozen, so it won't take such a long time until it becomes stable; maybe gnewsense 4.0 won't even be released by that time, so the equation will remain the same:
current gnewsense is based on outdated debian;
Since Debian stable is already what I consider the oldest still acceptable software, Gnewsense isn't an option - at least for me.
I don't know anything about the security policy of gnewsense or what happens when its basis becomes "old old stable" and loses security support by debian.
I'm sceptical about this.
I am a member!
A side note - how come it takes so long to release Gnewsense? I mean - Debian is mostly free already. All they really need to do is decline to mirror non-free, and replace Linux with Linux-Libre. Oh, and replace IceWeasel with IceCat.
I don't mean any disrespect to them, but what else do they really need to do in order to make a fully free version of Debian? I don't understand why it takes so long.
I think MIPS is the culprit there. I know they are having some difficulty with Iceweasel and MIPS for gNewSense 4 alpha...For some reason they are not using IceCat, but rather tweaking Iceweasel for added security and privacy...Personally, I like having IceCat and Iceweasel...daily browsing and one for private matters.
Would love to see IceCat be the standard browser across GNU/Linux, or at least the FSF distros.
DFSG isn't quite fully compliant with GNU FSDG, even if you exclude the non-free repo. I suppose GNewSense also includes GNU FDL manuals rejected by Debian, so that would add work as well.
Yeah and we shouldn't forget that Debian really contains *a lot* of packages.
I guess KDE also offers some kind of addon system and probably more applications, not just iceweasel.
But why not just abandon MIPS?
RMS switched from yeeloong to a gluglug pc and besides him i guess there is really little demand for mips support..
they shouldn't slow down the release because of this.
I am a member!
I agree about abandoning MIPS. I don't see the point of holding up the whole distro for an architecture barely anyone can use.
Not sure why they continue to use Iceweasel instead of IceCat. Does Iceweasel recommend non-free addons?
I think they would be better served creating a separate package for MIPS, similar to Arch (I think). Iceweasel does recommend non-free addons, it uses the same addons as standard Firefox, even directs you to the same addon page.
Regarding Ubuntu becoming like Windows and Apple, the corporate mentality, in particular Shuttleworth's admitted dictatorial attitude, that the direction of the Distro. will be his decision...Steve Jobs, Bill Gates etc.., rather then community driven. Also, the spyware/ad-ware hidden in the system, some say even in the code itself. Stallmans, description of Ubuntu being spyware etc... Seems the direction of Ubuntu is to move closer to proprietary mindset.
If this occurs, would it not become more challenging for Ruben and the team to remove items, then to just use Debian Testing etc...We might have to keep our eyes on this for the future. Testing would still provide very new software, be a step or two ahead of gNewSense, and more stable than Parabola/Arch etc...
Just thoughts! Remember, Microsoft and Apple both started out as open source...well at least the ideas for the programs and systems...Gates and Jobs were very good at taking open source ideas and closing them in!
"Shuttleworth's admitted dictatorial attitude, that the direction of the Distro will be his decision" (quoting you) has an influence on Ubuntu's default install and on software developed by Canonical (Unity, Mir, etc.). Trisquel does not need to use the software developed by Canonical (Unity is not Trisquel's default desktop for instance) and, as I wrote before, Ubuntu's default install does *not* influence Trisquel. Trisquel only copies free software (nothing is "hidden") packages from Ubuntu's repositories. If it becomes impossible to copy the Unity packages (for instance) without copying malware, then Trisquel will not copy those packages.
As long as Ubuntu does not alter upstream free software packages (i.e., in provenance from Debian testing) in ways that disrespect the "Free System Distribution Guidelines" (by adding, for instance, recommendation for proprietary software), I do not think Shuttleworth's policies can do Trisquel any harm.
Hey MagicBanana,
Thank you for the insightful reply...This may just make your day, I made the switch back to Trisquel as main OS. :)
Always, enjoy your posts, keep it up!
I was surprised the LAS hosts did not know about IceCat.
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