IceCat as default browser?
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I've already posted this as a feature request.
We should have IceCat as the default web browser, instead of the current generic "A Web Browser" program. This is because:
What do you think about this idea?
i agree and vote for IceCat; concuerdo, voto para IceCat.
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 04:02 +0100, name at domain wrote:
> I've already posted this as a feature request.
>
> We should have IceCat as the default web browser, instead of the current
> generic "A Web Browser" program. This is because:
> The logo, mascot, and name are much more distinctive
> IceCat maintains a listing of free software add-ons whereas there is no such
> thing for "A Web Browser"
> Far more people use IceCat than our browser, and that implies better support
> for users
>
> What do you think about this idea?
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All thou I agree that GNU IceCat is a better choice I still prefer to have the ppa's so I could have the browser up to date, so it wouldn't matter for me if is installed by default or not.
By the way, if some of you haven't updated IceCat to 3.6, I recommend you to remain, temporally, at the last 3.5.* because I noticed some issues, not major but still, like: the menu's are blocking after you customize the layout, when you star/bookmark a page you have to switch tabs in order to see the star yellow and to be able to set the location...
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IceCat still updates versions without the PPAs. For major version updates, like 3.5 -> 3.6, that can wait between distro releases.
I've noticed a major bug where IceCat does not save your tabs after closing in 3.6. But in their bug mailing list, they've already found out the cause of that problem, and it will probably be fixed by the 3.6.1 release.
Honestly, I think this would be a great idea. I give it a BIG +1 :)
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I support this idea. IceCat supports .OGG video using the HTML5 video tag, while Web Browser currently does not.
I agree for IceCat as default web browser.
> I agree for IceCat as default web browser.
This was discussed already. IceCat is not packaged the Debian way, that's
why it is not in our repos. Trisquel's Web Browser is just IceCat 3.0
properly packaged. We will have Web Browser 3.5 in the next release.
BTW, the audio and video tags will not be full supported in Firefox (and
derivatives) until 3.6 or up. And remember, HTML5 is not an standard but a
draft yet.
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"This was discussed already. IceCat is not packaged the Debian way, that's
why it is not in our repos."
What does that mean? And how is this a problem for Trisquel when it is not a problem for gNewSense, which is likewise Debian/Ubuntu based, and will be purely Debian based in the future?
Web Browser 3.5? Why should Trisquel users have to get an outdated version of their browser for the next six months, when 3.6 has come out already?
Audio and video tags for Vorbis were supported in FireFox in 3.5 (and there has been the Cortado Java plugin for any users that do not yet have native HTML5 support in their browsers). And in fact, FireFox/IceCat 3.6 just added full-screen support on top of that.
> "This was discussed already. IceCat is not packaged the Debian way,
that's
> why it is not in our repos."
>
> What does that mean?
It means that IceCat includes a huge set of libraries already provided by
the system, wasting space in the live cd and being prone to failure.
> And how is this a problem for Trisquel when it is not
> a problem for gNewSense, which is likewise Debian/Ubuntu based?
AFAIK gNewSense's browser is Epiphany, and IceCat is provided via an
external
repository.
> Web Browser 3.5? Why should Trisquel users have to get an outdated
version
> of their browser for the next six months, when 3.6 has come out already?
It will ship with whatever version is the official upstream, to have the
same
level of support. Stability and security are more important than
modernity.
> Audio and video tags for Vorbis were supported in FireFox in 3.5 (and
> there has been the Cortado Java plugin for any users that do not yet
have
> native HTML5 support in their browsers). And in fact, FireFox/IceCat 3.6
> just added full-screen support on top of that.
That's nice, but Firefox 3.6 (our code upstream) is not available in
Karmic.
We hope to have the 3.6 version or newer in Trisquel 4, Lucid based.
If having a "bleeding edge" version of a free Firefox clone is so
important,
we would support any community effort to maintain such a package/repo. The
official and default browser needs to come from upstream, though.
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man, "A Web Browser" is very funny, because when my friend ask me "what web browser you use?" i answer "A Web Browser :D" and they say "no man, seriously, what is the name of your web browser?? :/" and i say, again, "yes, it's name is Web Browser :D :D". i so funny ^^.
yeah, have iceCat as default web browser is good idea :)
p.d: no man, really, A Web Browser is soooo funny! :D
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I my opinion, the only real issue here is to decide wether we change the default trisquel mini browset or not.
Let's face it midori is crap :/ Don't we have any other lightweight browser?
Epiphany i guess.
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