IceCat V Weasel

Are they the same progect?

On 16/05/13 06:57, name at domain wrote:
> Can anyone tell me the difference between IceCat and IceWeasel,
> perhaps give a few comments?
>
> thanks.

Iceweasel (without a capital W) is a rebranded copy of Firefox used in
Debian. The version used in stable has backported security fixes made by
the Debian team (since Debian typically uses versions unsupported by
Mozilla) and is modified to meet the Debian packaging standards.
gNewSense 3.0 (based on Debian Squeeze) will use Iceweasel, but patched
to meet the free distribution standards (for example, it won't recommend
proprietary add-ons).

IceCat (formerly IceWeasel with a capital W, but rebranded to be less
confusing) is a rebranded copy of Firefox by the GNU Project. It's
currently maintained by Loic J Duros, the creator of LibreJS. Its aim is
to meet to free distribution standards and include privacy-focused add-ons.

At the moment Trisquel uses Abrowser, a rebranded copy of Ubuntu's
Firefox browser (with Ubufox and Unity integration patches, and modified
to meet the Ubuntu packaging standards). AFAIK Ubuntu's Firefox uses
some of the Debian Iceweasel scripts. I am hoping that one day the
Ubufox and Unity integration patches can be put into IceCat, so that
IceCat can be used in Trisquel instead.

Icecat is GNU's fork of Firefox, while Iceweasel is Debian's fork of the same. (The folks in the Debian user forums will tell you Iceweasel IS firefox, except for the name.)

Iceweasel will allow you to install non-free addons, whereas GNU's Icecat, has a separate page of addons, all of which are free software.

If you like to select search engines for the browser search bar, I doubt you will find a better selection in any browser other than Icecat.

GNU Icecat also includes several privacy enhancements. There is no need to go to about:config and delete all references to Google to preserve your privacy, because Icecat does it by default. You do not have to install the 'HTTPS Everywhere' extension, because Icecat has it by default. For me, it was the strangest sense of dejavu when I saw it the first time, because it was as if the packager had read my mind and altered Icecat by default, in the way I've have always done by hand, which appealed to my sense of laziness.

With Icecat, freedom is priority number 1 and privacy is a very close second, in my opinion. Others may see it differently.

I am at pressent using an one of the debian distributions although I am thinking to have a go with a gnu/linux disto soon. I tryed installing icecat but found it hard to get hold of. Is it in a repository anywhere?

The name of the ppa is 'gnuzilla-team.' Instructions, for Ubuntu, are found here:

https://wiki.edubuntu.org/IceCat

Why did the Trisquel developers not just include IceCat instead of making an own branding?

I have no idea, but clues may be found in the differences between Abrowser & Icecat. Abrowser comes with plugins to play all kinds of media, whereas Icecat does not. Abrowser also seems to track Firefox releases more closely, whereas Icecat is still at version 17, I think. Parabola includes Icecat.

I'll give Icefox a bash when the chance arizes. I like Icedove the email client, it fulfils all of my needs, thanks for the feed back... now how do I close this thread?

tryed installing icecat from tar.xz

I had some problems with dependencies...here is the end of a terminal read out from the command "make". Any Ideas?

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c++ -o nsCategoryCache.o -c -I../../dist/system_wrappers -include ../../config/gcc_hidden.h -DOSTYPE=\"Linux3.2\" -DOSARCH=Linux -DTARGET_XPCOM_ABI=\"x86-gcc3\" -I./../build -I. -I. -I../../dist/include -I../../dist/include/nsprpub -I/home/a/programs/icecat-3.6.3/dist/include/nspr -I/home/a/programs/icecat-3.6.3/dist/include/nss -fPIC -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wcast-align -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-long-long -pedantic -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -pipe -O3 -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../mozilla-config.h -Wp,-MD,.deps/nsCategoryCache.pp nsCategoryCache.cpp
nsCategoryCache.cpp: In member function ‘virtual nsrefcnt nsCategoryObserver::Release()’:
nsCategoryCache.cpp:104:1: warning: deleting object of polymorphic class type ‘nsCategoryObserver’ which has non-virtual destructor might cause undefined behaviour [-Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor]
In file included from nsDataHashtable.h:42:0,
from nsCategoryCache.h:49,
from nsCategoryCache.cpp:43:
nsBaseHashtable.h: In instantiation of ‘PRBool nsBaseHashtable::Put(nsBaseHashtable::KeyType, UserDataType) [with KeyClass = nsCStringHashKey; DataType = nsCString_external; UserDataType = nsCString_external; PRBool = int; nsBaseHashtable::KeyType = const nsACString&]’:
nsCategoryCache.cpp:82:44: required from here
nsBaseHashtable.h:145:35: error: ‘PutEntry’ was not declared in this scope, and no declarations were found by argument-dependent lookup at the point of instantiation [-fpermissive]
nsBaseHashtable.h:145:35: note: declarations in dependent base ‘nsTHashtable >’ are not found by unqualified lookup
nsBaseHashtable.h:145:35: note: use ‘this->PutEntry’ instead
nsBaseHashtable.h: In instantiation of ‘PRBool nsBaseHashtable::Get(nsBaseHashtable::KeyType, UserDataType*) const [with KeyClass = nsCStringHashKey; DataType = nsCString_external; UserDataType = nsCString_external; PRBool = int; nsBaseHashtable::KeyType = const nsACString&]’:
nsCategoryCache.cpp:149:30: required from here
nsBaseHashtable.h:126:35: error: ‘GetEntry’ was not declared in this scope, and no declarations were found by argument-dependent lookup at the point of instantiation [-fpermissive]
nsBaseHashtable.h:126:35: note: declarations in dependent base ‘nsTHashtable >’ are not found by unqualified lookup
nsBaseHashtable.h:126:35: note: use ‘this->GetEntry’ instead
nsBaseHashtable.h: In instantiation of ‘void nsBaseHashtable::Remove(nsBaseHashtable::KeyType) [with KeyClass = nsCStringHashKey; DataType = nsCString_external; UserDataType = nsCString_external; nsBaseHashtable::KeyType = const nsACString&]’:
nsCategoryCache.cpp:167:23: required from here
nsBaseHashtable.h:159:31: error: ‘RemoveEntry’ was not declared in this scope, and no declarations were found by argument-dependent lookup at the point of instantiation [-fpermissive]
nsBaseHashtable.h:159:31: note: declarations in dependent base ‘nsTHashtable >’ are not found by unqualified lookup
nsBaseHashtable.h:159:31: note: use ‘this->RemoveEntry’ instead
make[4]: *** [nsCategoryCache.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/a/programs/icecat-3.6.3/xpcom/glue'
make[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/a/programs/icecat-3.6.3/xpcom'
make[2]: *** [libs_tier_xpcom] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/a/programs/icecat-3.6.3'
make[1]: *** [tier_xpcom] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/a/programs/icecat-3.6.3'
make: *** [default] Error 2
a@crunchbang:~/programs/icecat-3.6.3$

yasm-1.2.0 i also installed from a gnewsence forum recomendation and I wonder if that could cause conflict?

thanks for looking.

If you use Debian, this is one official way to get Iceweasel: http://mozilla.debian.net/