Old packages Trisquel 6
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I have been using Trisquel 6 and love it (who doesn't love FSF support?), but I noticed that most packages are old. This is probobly because Trisqueal takes a snapshot of the Ubuntu repo and filters it, but is there any way to get the newer versions of software?
Maybe the Trisquel team should take more frequent snapshots and filter it through an automated filter. Comments or suggestions, anyone?
https://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-60-lts-toutatis-has-arrived
"We will also make it easier for volunteers to provide newer versions of extra packages through an optional community-backports repository."
There was a discussion on community supported backports of software a while ago. As far as I am aware, nobody seems to want to support it. Many of us here are not worried about the newer releases of software as freedom is the goal.
That said, you could use PPAs; those that are based on Ubuntu Precise (12.04) should work with Trisquel 6, just be aware that many of these contain non-free software.
On 17/07/13 10:54, ja-key wrote:
> I have been using Trisquel 6 and love it (who doesn't love FSF
> support?), but I noticed that most packages are old. This is probobly
> because Trisqueal takes a snapshot of the Ubuntu repo and filters it,
> but is there any way to get the newer versions of software?
>
> Maybe the Trisquel team should take more frequent snapshots and
> filter it through an automated filter. Comments or suggestions,
> anyone?
Trisquel 6.0 is based on Ubuntu 12.04, an LTS release. In the past,
Trisquel has also done STS releases, but not anymore as it is too much
work for the developers.
There are PPAs for Ubuntu 12.04 that work in Trisquel 6.0. However, many
PPAs haven't been fully checked for freedom issues.
DNS (a member here) maintains some PPAs of various GNU packages for
Ubuntu and Trisquel: https://launchpad.net/~dns. It is endorsed by the
GNU project as well: https://www.gnu.org/software/#getgnu.
There is some software that is kept up-to-date, such as Abrowser (well,
mostly updated, thanks to Ruben) and Linux-libre (with the help of Jason
Self and Ruben I believe).
Ubuntu 14.04 will be coming out next April, meaning another Trisquel
release will follow. If some of these bugs can be resolved, maybe the
Trisquel release will follow the Ubuntu release sooner and everyone will
have more up-to-date software.
Andrew.
The problem is that if you bring up the community backports to an important member of the development community (Ruben, Chris, jxself), the response is always "you want it? you can always create it on your own" meaning they aren't spending any time or effort on it. There has to be some initiative for this by them and a gameplan. Otherwise it won't happen which seems to be the case and is a broken promise.
Trisquel is a "community project" in name, but its basically a one man job and it shows. He comes out rarely from his cave, shows his face for a few minutes, and quickly goes back.
I am a member!
For particular packages, you may be able to find ppa with newer
versions. try searching launchpad.net for these archives. You add them
to your installed software sources, and update as usual.
Yeah, I use a handful of Launchpad PPAs to get updates to the free software packages I use on my Trisquel 6 box. I really wanted the community backports repo to happen and it is a shame that we are still left in the dark. Even if one of us did put the effort to create the repo and provide the packages, it may be months before Ruben even takes a look at it.
Well, freedom is my top priority, and I won't sacrifice freedom for new software with a new Ubuntu Precise PPA.
I mostly want GNU packages, and building from source isn't really hard.
Are there any ppas for GNU?
Also, just out of curiosity, how much time would it take to make a community backports repo?
You aren't sacrificing freedom when using a PPA as long as the software within it is free software. Just double check the type of project and the licensing before installing it.
Another example is the PPA at https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5 which recently gave me PHP 5.4.17 for my server and is backported from Debian unstable. Is it free software? Of course!
i'm just saying, the Ubuntu main repos include and endorse proprietery software, and I don't want that.
PPAs are not Ubuntu's repositories. The first P stands for "Personal". That said, many PPAs do contain proprietary software and you must be careful to avoid them if you value your freedoms. The GNU PPA only contains free software though. It will certainly always be so (given that this PPA is DNS', a longtime Trisquel user who is definitely committed to free software).
I added ppa:dns/gnu but some updates wouldn't install
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