[POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?
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Here is my favorite song for my desktop
Songwriters
KURT COBAIN
Polly wants a cracker
I think I should get off her first
I think she wants some water
To put out the blow torch
It isn't me
We have some seed
Let me clip
Your dirty wings
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
I've got some rope
You have been told
I promise you
I have been true
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
Polly wants a cracker
Maybe she would like some food
She asks me to untie her
A chase would be nice for a few
It isn't me
We have some seed
Let me clip
Your dirty wings
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
I've got some rope
You have been told
I promise you
I have been true
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
Polly said
Polly says her back hurts
And she's just as bored as me
She caught me off my guard
It amazes me, the will of instinct
It isn't me
We have some seed
Let me clip
Your dirty wings
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
I've got some rope
You have been told
I promise you
I have been true
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
Use KDE
KDE5....Actually I don't think something like that would end badly.....
KDE5....Actually I don't think something like that would end badly.....
https://trinitydesktop.org/ <-- for hw without 3D accel
KDE5+ for others
I think Trinity should be considered only if there's an easy way (read metapackage) to install the desktop shell without the rest of the DE (PDF reader, etc). Too much of the aforementioned "rest" of the DE didn't seem to work with this day and age. Last time I checked, anyway.
And I don't recall there being such an easy way.....might be wrong though.
I think Trinity should be considered only if there's an easy way (read
metapackage) to install the desktop shell without the rest of the DE (PDF
reader, etc).
And I don't recall there being syuch a thing.....might be wrong though.
I mainly use xfce, but from time to time I install GNOME (with GNOME-Shell) and the more I use it the more I like it.
So I'd like to see GNOME-Shell as default in Trisquel.
I like GNOME Flashback for Trisquel 7, but for version 8 I wish to see GNOME Shell, at least as an option in the installer. GNOME Shell looks fantastic and works great if you're sitting with a laptop, which I believe more people are doing nowadays.
Don't you mean Trisquel 7? Unless we're talking about the next release? :-P
Anyways, I voted for XFCE. When I setup my system with Trisquel, I basically
use it like Debian and went with a minimal net install. Then after that was
done, I installed XFCE, my programs I like, and compiled a newer version of
Linux-libre.
It works well for me. It's not exactly what one would consider the easiest
out of the box experience, but it suits me and is tailored to my needs/likes.
I did consider using a tilable window manager such as i3, but for the
programs I use as well as my workflow, it just made more sense to use XFCE.
It's light, and stays out of my way.
I think the default Trisquel environment is good for people who want a no
frills desktop that works well out of the box. (Don't get me wrong, I think
it's well done.) Me personally, I don't like branding much; nor am I a fan of
Gnome fallback, so I opt for something else.
My two cents. ;-)
I like LXDE and Openbox. However, I most enjoy using Cinnamon desktop
environment. It balances usability and good design. I hope it makes it into
Trisquel 8, and perhaps it will replace the default desktop environment in
the next release, together with an icon redesign.
Ah, I'm the only one who voted GNOME fallback so far......
I'm not voting on this because it requires some kind of JavaScript code to
work, and I've already answered in the other thread anyway.
I also like gnome-fallback :)
can we use Pantheon DE in Trisquel?
I recently have discovered and enjoy ICEWM with ConnochaetoOS 14.1
Works well on gNewsense Ucclia ...might be rather retro look but it uses only
140mb of RAM and a some amazing softwares...very reactive,no polished shiny
stuff,press button gui.....
I totally agree with Calm Storm
Although i think every desktop environment should be available on the dvd and
net install
PLEASE INCLUDE THEM ALL! EVERY ONE OF THEM!
Please! I will end up installing them all anyway, and I switch fairly
frequently.
I use KDE primarily, because it can do anything, and it does everything. But
for my family I set them on GNOME 3, because it's so simple you can't mess
anything up. For really old hardware I occasionally revive, I use the
lightweight DEs.
For my tablet that I use for school, I switch to Unity.
Actually, the only DE I *don't* use is that default Trisquel gnome fallback
thing. It's ugly and buggy and not really good at anything (sorry!).
I use Emacs as a window manager :)
XFCE4
I see a lot of GNOME Shell votes...I wonder how many of those are default
GNOME Shell (great DE....but after a rather steep learning curve which I
don't think Linus Torvalds has bothered with (neither has RMS but he doesn't
use the GUI) and how many are RedHat-style GNOME Shell.....
(1) I voted for Gnome Shell.
This is for the "regular" or "main" edition.
(2) And there should always be Trisquel mini with LXDE for computers with low
resources.
Hello.
My English level is not good. I like much the LXDE desktop because it
consumes very little and it is possible to personalize. Also I like the Mate
desktop, and Gnome3 too.
I believe that the dektop environment for the next version of Trisquel is
LXDE for Trisquel Mini and Gnome3 or Mate for Trisquel normal version.
The links are three captures of my desktop. I use Trisquel 7 LXDE.
Sorry for my bad english.
I would still use GNOME, but make it more modern-looking (Like windows 10 and
mac os), But still make it a 100% libre OS!
Anyway I think XFCE would be a great option for the Mini edition - based on
my small experience of using the Compaq TC1000, I think any relatively light
window manager (used in non-madly-heavy desktop shells) that can move windows
like this should work:
Xfwm4 does that(
https://askubuntu.com/questions/574024/how-to-disable-windows-contents-to-be-moved-on-dragging-so-that-only-a-frame-i
), but I couldn't get Openbox to do that (not with Obconf, anyway). So going
with XFCE wouldn't be a bad idea....
The older I get, the newer a 20-year-old computer is; LOL.
Here is my favorite song for my desktop
Songwriters
KURT COBAIN
Polly wants a cracker
I think I should get off her first
I think she wants some water
To put out the blow torch
It isn't me
We have some seed
Let me clip
Your dirty wings
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
I've got some rope
You have been told
I promise you
I have been true
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
Polly wants a cracker
Maybe she would like some food
She asks me to untie her
A chase would be nice for a few
It isn't me
We have some seed
Let me clip
Your dirty wings
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
I've got some rope
You have been told
I promise you
I have been true
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
Polly said
Polly says her back hurts
And she's just as bored as me
She caught me off my guard
It amazes me, the will of instinct
It isn't me
We have some seed
Let me clip
Your dirty wings
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
I've got some rope
You have been told
I promise you
I have been true
Let me take a ride
Don't cut yourself
I want some help
To please myself
Use KDE
I like GNOME Fallback for Trisquel 7, but for version 8 I wish to see GNOME
Shell, at least as an option in the installer. GNOME Shell looks fantastic
and works great if you're sitting with a laptop, which I believe more people
are doing nowadays.
I mainly use xfce, but from time to time I install GNOME (with GNOME-Shell)
and the more I use it the more I like.
So I'd like to see GNOME-Shell as default in Trisquel.
If you are considering offering LXDE, just go with LXQT instead. There is a lot more going on with QT vs GTK+.
XFCE, it's gtk and unlikely to branch off into something unrecognizable, like gnome-shell did.
There's xfdashboard under development, which adds similar features than gnome-shell to xfce.
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfdashboard/start
Gnome Fallback! Do most of you guys use touch screens these days? gnome shell is too much like a tablet or smart phone layout. But I might change my mine. I just installed gnome-shell have to get use to it first to know for sure.
GNOME Shell is really elegant when you get used to it. It's also very simple and easy to learn.
I also wouldn't characterize it as designed for touch screens. Some aspects of it are more friendly to touch screens, but in general, it's designed for a mouse and keyboard. Keyboard support, especially, is something that GNOME Shell gives a great deal of attention to. You can quite literally do everything just in the keyboard very easily if you want to.
It's still an acquired taste though. Having acquired said taste, I think it's great.
But to (rather forcibly) bother people who are not crious about it with a new workflow they never asked for? I think GNOME Classic came too late :(
And no, please don't say GNOME's only for touchscreens.
I agree. I would even write that GNOME Shell is well designed to be used with the sole keyboard. I move the mouse less than I used to when I was on GNOME 2: faster window navigation thanks to the division Alt+Tab/Alt+[key above Tab], access to the dash with the Super key, search of an application or a folder by typing any part of its name, etc. See https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet for an efficient use of GNOME Shell.
I thought you could use those same keyboard commands in gnome 2 also?
I am pretty sure there was no Alt+[key above Tab] in GNOME. And there certainly was no dash (there were third party applications though, GNOME Do for example): you had to press Alt+F1 to open the menu and then navigate with the arrows up to your application or up to the "Search file" utility.
With GNOME Shell, you just press the Super key (the Windows key on most keyboards) and start typing. It not only searches the installed programs (or their windows if they are already opened) and the files but the contacts too. Because the applications are ordered by frequency of use (I believe), one or two letters are enough and you often end up not even having the time to see the dash. For example, I type Super, A, Enter and Abrowser is launched or I switch to its window if it is already opened.
I enabled minimize and maximize in gnome-tweak-tool. So you can still sort of navigate like you did in old gnome or gnome fallback.
GNOME 3 is nice i'll agree,i've been trying it out lately.How it's radically different i guess is what throws people off
MATE PERIOD
I'm all for Gnome 3 Shell and Gnome Fallback, just like Debian.
Mate, is the best one, if Trisquel backports Mate's repos in order to get recent features.
If not, XFCE4.
Mate and GNOME are the only desktop environments that fit the accessibility support required by trisquel. So they are the only possible choices for the default trisquel version.
It's nice to see someone giving actual explanations for his/her choice.
I just think gnome-shell (with a few easy tweaks) is very classic in use, and very appealing. Fallback is ugly as f*ck. Same with Mate IMO.
Appeal matters for new users. But I agree that the "out of the box" gnome-shell is not familiar enough.
There's also gnome-classic for a near-Mate looks.
But the ability to run better on slower hardware (I've read it's a very minor issue), and that seemingly unique behavior with external drives looks nice.
According to this, I'd vote for a slightly tweaked gnome-shell as default. New users around me are more than pleased.
A few tweaks that come to mind : Faenza icon theme (or something even more classic), activate minimizing/maximizing icons on Abrowser, add the applications menu, get rid of the rounded corners (I ended up doing it in CSS), add a dock extension, and that's pretty much it, if I'm not mistaken. The panel can even be brought down with an extension. I just prefer the osX-like setup. Which reminds me that I also deactivated desktop icons (so much clutter for nothing. Open a Nautilus, there's a desktop folder for Gnome's sake!)
I'll have to test the external drive behavior.
I used Mint for a short while and really enjoyed Cinnamon.
Well, if you refer to the next release, I would like to see KDE and XFCE. But actually I got the default GNOME DE and installed KDE 4. I like plasma becouse is very friendly and easy to use.
Mate is good enough.
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