Question about Trisquel

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Beigetreten: 04/01/2013

I recently watched a video in which Dr. Richard Stallman gave a lecture about the importance of using free and open source software. I didn't really know how, or which distro of GNU/linux to obtain in order to be considered "Free" but I knew that 4chan.org/g/ would probably contain many users willing to help me. A user recommended that I try "trisquel". Now I simply wish to confirm, this operating system, and everything included in the mini-iso (the 500 MB one), is 100% free and open source software, correct?

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Beigetreten: 12/28/2009

I kind of doubt that 4chan is the best place for advice on this. But then, I avoid that dank corner of the interwebs like a cancer.

But yes, Trisquel is fully free, and currently the FSF's preference of OS.

There's a rather high chance that something won't work on your computer, though ... either wifi or 3D accelaration, most likely.

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Beigetreten: 09/13/2010

name at domain wrote ..
> I recently watched a video in which Dr. Richard Stallman gave a
lecture about
> the importance of using free and open source software.

I very much doubt that :) He would have given a talk about the
importance of free software, not about the importance of open source.

> I didn't really know
> how, or which distro of GNU/linux to obtain in order to be
considered "Free"
> but I knew that 4chan.org/g/ would probably contain many users
willing to
> help me. A user recommended that I try "trisquel". Now I simply wish
to
> confirm, this operating system, and everything included in the
mini-iso (the
> 500 MB one), is 100% free and open source software, correct?

There is a list at gnu.org/distros and Trisquel is included in there,
so everything in there is free software.

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Beigetreten: 12/28/2009

He did say "free" also. And while I doubt that RMS would use the big-tent phrase "free and open source" (that's more of a GNOME/Red Hat identity marker, and a favorite of mine), he doesn't deny the truth of open source's benefits, either. He sees the OS movement as lacking, though. For one, open source people probably have no objections to a problem like tivoization, which render the *practical* ability to make modifications meaningless.

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Beigetreten: 04/23/2011

It doesn't matter which free distribution you use. FSF/RMS tends to point people to Trisquel because it is a free software distribution that also is easy to install/use comparatively. Its also kept more up to date and has fewer issues that a less technical user might have to deal with.

Here is a list of good distributions:

http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

Parabola GNU/Linux and Trisquel seem to be the distributions to go with if your a free software user. Both are modern and updated often. Parabola GNU/Linux is definitely for more technical users. Its advantages are it is kept more up to date (bleeding edge) software than Trisquel. It is a rolling release distribution which basically means you get upgrades freequently. The dissadvantage to that is there is a higher risk that things stop working. It is also much harder to install.

I think ?most? of the other free distributions are not terribly good fits. They have various issues including: not getting updated (you might go years- if ever without an update). gNewSense is an example of this. Some may be discontinued or abandoned. The other problem is some of the distributions have no real user base. This is a problem because bugs don't get noticed or fixed. Trisquel has it a little bit better. For example the AR9170 firmware got into Trisquel. That made it possible to use some USB N wireless adapters. Even Fedora doesn't have good support for the AR9170 USB N adapters. So this says a lot.

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Beigetreten: 12/28/2009

Why doesn't fedora have good support for AR9170? I thought all that was kernel-side ... and Fedora keeps very up to date with kernel releases.

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Beigetreten: 04/23/2011

No. They need to package the carl9170 firmware. It's been a bug report for ages.

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Beigetreten: 05/30/2012

Dragora seems to also be pretty up-to-date. It's based on KISS, though, so not for most people.

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Beigetreten: 12/28/2009

Dragora is tough as nails, requiring you to build everything from source on top of a system that is not pretty. I couldn't recommend it to myself, and a recommendation of Dragora is on the level of telling someone to "install Gentoo". :P

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Beigetreten: 10/28/2010

El 01/04/13 17:50, name at domain escribió:
> Dragora is tough as nails, requiring you to build everything from
> source on top of a system that is not pretty. I couldn't recommend it
> to myself, and a recommendation of Dragora is on the level of telling
> someone to "install Gentoo". :P

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Beigetreten: 12/28/2009

No, not cool. An excuse to spend inhuman level of time in front of a computer, suffering.

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Beigetreten: 07/24/2010

Unlike Gentoo, Dragora GNU/Linux uses pre-compiled packages. Unlike Gentoo, Dragora's package manager does not resolve dependencies:
Currently, by default, Dragora's package system does not offer automatic dependency resolution, since that would need more code and, in some cases, require complex algorithms.

That (and not a pre-compiled/source-based difference) makes Dragora not recommendable to anybody but to advanced users who really want to have their hands in the dirt (in my opinion) of a completely unconventional system (unique package management system, unique init system, unique configuration tools, etc.). For the advanced users who want to learn and be at the cutting edge, there is Parabola GNU/Linux. For the rest of us (including advanced users who do not care much about the cutting edge), there is Trisquel GNU/Linux. ;-)

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Beigetreten: 12/28/2009

As Ruben said at LibrePlanet, Trisquel isn't about the bleeding edge, because the user is the one who has to bleed. :)

And "Install Gentoo" is an internet meme, one that I find unusually funny right now! See: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/install-gentoo

Unlike the evil "Delete system 32" meme, it's (mostly) in good fun.