Relyant on adobe flash player, anyway to increase the performance of gnash?
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I have a confession.....I use adobe flash player. Yes yes I know it is prepiotary but I need it for online school. Tried gnash on it and everything ran slow, I could not get lightspark working so I had to install adobe flash player. Is there any way to increase the performance of gnash? newground runs flawlessly, youtube vids run choppy on full screen and online school runs slow. Anyway to speed it up? I use trisquel 5.5 mini.
Lightspark was a bust too. Maybe someday some companies will get together and create a true free software alternative to something proprietary like how Red Hat created IcedTea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea
Oh well, adobe flash will do for now I suppose.
There is no way to increase performance of Gnash at this time, however, I still believe using Adobe Flash is still not acceptable.
This is one of those situations where, if you really care moreso about performance over software freedom, you'd be better off using a different operating system that doesn't focus on freedom. And yes, it basically sounds to me like you care for performance over freedom by saying that using Adobe Flash is acceptable for use in a free software operating system, when, in no way, it is. It's like saying that you'd like to use proprietary drivers because they might offer better performance over free software ones, which, for all I know, could be the case.
There are alternatives, still:
- YouTube has the HTML5 player and an application called minitube.
- For your online school, send them off a letter (electronically or by post) stating that you can't access their website due to you not agreeing to the Flash EULA, and ask for alternative ways to access their website. From what it sounds like you said, you were able to access their website even though it ran somewhat slow. That's better than what I had to deal with when I was taking online classes, where it wouldn't even work at all, and I still didn't install Flash.
I'm getting tired of people talking about how they've installed proprietary software on a free software operating system, then publically talk about it in that free software operating system's forum as if it isn't a big deal. We're here to promote software freedom, not hear how people installed proprietary software. If you're going to do it, fine, it's your computer. But, don't talk about it here.
A lot of users are seduced into running proprietary software, mostly at no fault of their own. Gnash and Flash alternatives are listed as high-priority projects for this reason.
I definitely have a lot of sympathy for Gumboman. I consider myself lucky because I uninstalled Flash over a year ago (while I was still using Windows) and I'm lucky because I never had a school that used it.
For YouTube, you can also use youtube-dl to watch without the non-free ActionScript.
Gumboman: many other devices, especially mobile devices, don't support Flash. If you do complain, I would recommend mentioning this. I would also recommend mentioning that Flash uses mostly secret/proprietary formats.
You shouldn't have to agree to a EULA belonging to a company for any education either.
Best of luck, whatever you do.
YEah, the only reason I really need flash is cause of school. I do online school and my lessons are through flash videos and I tried to run gnash and it was slow and laggy and it would stop to say loading half way through, I do not have time for that. For youtube there is html5 and youtube downloader and gnash runs flawlessly on newgrounds. It's the only peice of propiotary software I run really. I do have to say that I am not impressed at some of the snootyness of some folks around here. And kinda come off as a bit arrogent. Not all but some, I'm just sayin.
The same day I switched to an only free distro (like Trisquel and Parabola), I stopped using Adobe Flash at all without knowing how difficult a change like that could be but I learn something very fun (for me at least xD):
Good Stuff:
1 - I can still see every youtube video without exception
2 - Some websites with old flash movies that don't work with adobe flash anymore (like some Portuguese old websites), still work perfectly with gnash.
3 - This made me think about helping the gnash project instead of just switching to adobe every time something didn't work as I wished.
4 - I can make a lot of people hungry when they try to show me something and it doesn't work xD (like the kickstarter videos for example)
Bad Stuff:
1 - Full screen is a really bad idea xD It lags... and lags... and lags...
2 - I can't go up from 480p, if I go to 720p or 1080p video don't load at all
Beside of that, I found using only free software better in general performance on the long term that using proprietary software, and nobody with all the examples that he/she wanted would change this idea. When I was using, Firefox (or Chrome), nVidia blob, adobe flash player, and working with gimp, after 3 or 4 hours, my Gnome-Shell was running slow and my swap was being used (over my 4GB of Ram), doing the same stuff, but with trisquel (or even parabola), don't use my swap at all and don't make my Gnome-Shell lag :D And this is fantastic :D
If gnash worked with my school stuff I would be using that, only one more school year and I will dump adobe flash in the garbage. I can't wait!
Well I shouldn't say something like this, but you don't need to pollute or profane your Trisquel installation with this kind of proprietary and dirty software. You just have to install Ubuntu for example on a usb pen with flash and use it.
It is my solution for those classes when I really have neither a solution, neither the money (to pay the university bills) to contest, with this method my computer remains clean, and so my freedom (but for 1 hour 3 times a month I use this dirty stuff, which is not great but that helps e solving my problem for now, and makes me want to help more and more projects like the gnash project as I already do).
Yeah, I have high hopes for gnash, runs flwlessly on newgrounds and other flash sites, but the thing is I want to live as free as possible, only useing the dirty stuff when I have no choice. It's not like it's going to stay on my cpu, when I get the chance I am gonna try to do tweaks to gnash to see if it runs better with my school stuff. Cause I really hate useing flash, you have no idea.
В 17:39 +0200 на 28.09.2012 (пт), name at domain написа:
> 4 - I can make a lot of people hungry when they try to show me something and
> it doesn't work xD (like the kickstarter videos for example)
Linterna Mágica has some Kickstarter support and at least project
introductory clips should work. Haven't tested lately is it is still
working.
I have to admit, I never really tried this kind of stuff because of the "non really integrated" solution by extensions and addons for firefox free alartnatives (iceweasel in my case for parabola), but... how can I say this... It just works perfectly :D (for videos of course).
This is just awesome :D (It should have a solution to select which one we wanted between this one and gnash because they start at the same time :S...
В 22:49 +0200 на 28.09.2012 (пт), name at domain написа:
> how can I say this... It just works perfectly :D (for videos of course).
Thanks.
> This is just awesome :D (It should have a solution to select which one we
> wanted between this one and gnash because they start at the same time :S...
It does. It is not very user friendly - you have to edit the script to
set config options. [1] The option is "priority". The better way is it
install the helper script [2] that preserve your settings with newer
versions, add/edit all deserved options from the docs and enjoy. Sadly
lately there are reports that there is a dual-playback with flash
plugins. [3] It is supposed to be fixed in the unstable daily builds or
at least partly.
The default behaviour is to replace flash and play instead of it and
allow html5 to play instead of Linterna Mágica, but the bug is
preventing that.
Lately I hardly can find time to work on the project because my schedule
is full, not that I don't want to. I'm not happy that I'm kind of
neglecting LM and I would love to to work on it more/full time, but
sadly it is yet not possible (if ever) and other things are eating
almost all of my time. So please (all) be patient with LM. Thanks.
I suppose and hope that at the end of next month there will be a new
stable release with fixes from trunk.
[1]http://download-mirror.savannah.gnu.org/releases/linterna-magica/latest_docs/linterna_magica.html#Configuration
[2] http://linterna-magica.nongnu.org/#download-util
[3] https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?36888
[4] http://linterna-magica.nongnu.org/#download-unstable
I didn't knew you were the developer of Linterna Magica :S Nice job man :D I would really like to help you (and by the same way solving my problem), but I can't even compile the development branch because of an error (/usr/bin/tail: src/lm_inject_script_in_page.js: invalid number of lines), but I will see that :D
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 08:26:22AM +0200, name at domain wrote:
> I didn't knew you were the developer of Linterna Magica :S Nice job
> man :D
Thanks.
> but I can't even compile the development branch because
> of an error (/usr/bin/tail: src/lm_inject_script_in_page.js: invalid
> number of lines), but I will see that :D
That is a similar message to the one I have with Trisquel Taranis only
when the build is running in Cron job or GNU screen and for different
file(s). I've traced it to grep being unable to match '//*\s+' while
running inside Cron and screen. At least in my case. It migth be gerp
related in your case as well. I cannot figure out why. I bet it has
something to do with environment variables, but no luck yet. For that
reason there are no nightly builds for a while. On my daily machine
with latest Trisquel it works fine everywhere. Any help on that would
be greatly appreciated, but I might have to upgrade my server to the
latest Trisquel as well.
Please repport a bug report about this issue with the full
output. Thanks.
В 09:49 +0300 на 29.09.2012 (сб), Ivaylo Valkov написа:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 08:26:22AM +0200, name at domain wrote:
> > but I can't even compile the development branch because [..]
>
> That is a similar message to the one I have with Trisquel Taranis only
> when the build is running in Cron job or GNU screen and for different
> file(s). [...]
> For that reason there are no nightly builds for a while. On my daily machine
> with latest Trisquel it works fine everywhere. Any help on that would
> be greatly appreciated, but I might have to upgrade my server to the
> latest Trisquel as well.
Done. I've upgraded my server to Brigantia and everything is fine. The
Linterna Mágica nightly svn builds are working again.
I didn't knew you were the developer of Linterna Magica :S Nice job man :D I would really like to help you (and by the same way solving my problem), but I can't even compile the development branch because of an error (/usr/bin/tail: src/lm_inject_script_in_page.js: invalid number of lines), but I will see that :D
Solved :D There was an error because he couldn't find the /bin/grep (because on Parabola an Arch it is located at /usr/bin/grep).
A few questions. :-)
So, from what I gather, you mainly use the proprietary flash b/c of the online school, correct?
Are there quizzes that require flash?
I'm taking an online course that uses either flash or html5 for videos and stuff, and after I fully watch each vid, it marks it as watched. Does yours do this as well? And if not, would it suffice to download the video?
IT does not give me the option of useing html5 which sucks, and I tried multiple times useing gnash on it, the letters are freakishly small and the answers are blank, they do not show up at all! if everything was properly displayed but was a bit slow and laggy then I would be using gnash. I tried lightspark and it just says adobe flash plugin crashed. So I am stuck. And no seems I cannot download the stuff, if I can then I do not know how to.
Are those "testes" available anywhere else ? Because with just one example the community could look for a solution :D
Any other thing to try besides gnash and lightspark? IF so then let me at it.
Euh.... yes you have some "workarounds" for firefox using some plugins that I don't remember the name, but they only work with videos so it is not a solution.
gumboman said:
"IT does not give me the option of useing html5 which sucks, and I tried multiple times useing gnash on it, the letters are freakishly small and the answers are blank, they do not show up at all![...]"
Hm.. Is this in regards to quizzes?
@gumboman: Would you be comfortable enough to share the website you're attempting to use?
@Anyone: Know of any Firefox/Abrowser extension that downloads videos/media from any webpage?
I seen youtube and etc downloaders: http://trisquel.info/en/browser?keys=download&tid=All
But there must be someway to download the vids..
My online corse is Thelearningoddesy.com it's run by compass learning. And yes it's the quizzes, the animation is okay but the display of the quizzes is out of wack.
Link: https://www.thelearningodyssey.com/#
Since it has to do with interactive stuff, I'm out of ideas. :p
(Didn't have many to begin with, but, I tried)
If you do decide to send them an email regarding this issue, perhaps a member here could assist you in wording it.
I've been to the IRC quite a few times asking for this particular type of help, since I'm not great at wording things.
Cheers.
I appretciate you trying to help insted of just going "Dishonor on you!" I could use help with such wordings for I am not that good at wording things either.At least with flash it can be ran on linux platforms unlick lastyear with advanced acedemics which needed silverlight *shudders*. But for now I'll just deal with it till I figure somthing out.
Is it possible to watch twitcams without flash?
Not at my knowlegde, but if I'm not wrong, we can't see them for the simple reason that it is Flash 10, and gnash only supports up to Flash v9 (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/).
El 27/09/12 10:20, name at domain escribió:
> I have a confession.....I use adobe flash player. Yes yes I know it is
> prepiotary but I need it for online school. Tried gnash on it and
> everything ran slow, I could not get lightspark working so I had to
> install adobe flash player. Is there any way to increase the
> performance of gnash? newground runs flawlessly, youtube vids run
> choppy on full screen and online school runs slow. Anyway to speed it
> up? I use trisquel 5.5 mini.
>
The best way to make the school feel that it is a problem for them and
that they should change the software is that you tell them nicely it is
a problem for you. Also, you can show them that they are lagging because
online school on cell phones is the present day trend.
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What do you guys think about CreateJS from http://createjs.com
This is relatively new to me and there is a tool called ZOË which works with SWF files. Most of these tools are under an MIT license, so it is totally fair game to play with.
It would be nice if down the road that SWFs could be converted on the fly and ran in HTML5 canvas in a free software compatible plugin for Abrowser/Firefox and Chromium. Especially with Adobe not upgrading the plugin for Linux and forcing users to install the non-free Google Chrome if Flash is that big of a priority for them.
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