Should the FSF financially support Trisquel?
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As I understand it, the FSF sponsors gNewSense (which I guess is because of rms's dependency on the MIPS architecture).
But do you think the FSF should sponsor Trisquel?
They distribute it on their USB cards to new members, and it is the distro that the FSF uses on their own computers.
It would give Ruben a nice boost in financial security, and most importantly , the long-term security of the distribution.
The need for a fully free Ubuntu replacement has never been stronger. Installing a user and freedom friendly GNU/Linux system like Trisquel is one of the best things you can do to guarantee control over your own computing. I think that if the FSF could sponsor Trisquel, they would be doing a tremendous service to free software adoption.
What do you think?
I am not sure if they should dedicate resources to a particular distro. After all, a distro is just a flavour of their work. It's us, the users, that have to donate and help spread the message.
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One of the aims of the FSF is to "promote computer user freedom". They sponsor the GNU project, so it shouldn't surprise anyone if they sponsor another project as well.
In my opinion, Trisquel is better than gNewSense in providing a fully free operating system. While the freedom aspect certainly is just the same, Trisquel is simply newer, more up to date and has a more polished GUI (the no-bullshit classical desktop is really great!).
Also if you find a precompiled package on the internet, chances are, it's for Ubuntu. Those may sometimes be incompatible with Debian, so if you have an Ubuntu based distro, you'll be able to use more packages as a result.
Asking FSF to sponsor Trisquel is pointless imho. Trisquel is still able to sustain itself, FSF wants to promote gNewSense (because of MIPS and because it uses the word GNU twice, gNewSense GNU/Linux). If Trisquel should become endangered, I am quite sure the FSF will help us out.
I would really like to become a member, but I have no money because I have to repay a huge credit that I took for university. Next year I'll be getting a real job for full wage, so I'll be able to spare some money easily.
I strongly doubt the FSF is *financially* supporting the gNewSense project. Do you have any reference?
I consider the FSF had better pay some developers to work on the high priority projects. But financing Rúben to work on Trisquel would be a good move too. :-)
If I understand correctly, the FSF's "sponsorship" of gNewSense is limited to hosting only and being mentioned on gnu.org/distros.
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I think there may be a decent chance that the funds/developer shortage Trisquel has now may be solved within the year. Even though there is quite a ways to go...
I think it would be great if the FSF helped with a fund raising campaign for Trisquel. I'm not so sure if the FSF needs to actually fund it though. I think Trisquel can be self-moving. It's just going to take some time to get to that point.
Stallman is mentioning trisquel during his speeches, so yes, FSF is supporting. I think advocacy is very important support for any distro out there. It'll bring intrested and hopefully donating volunteers. any donation should be valuable, be it time, development or money.
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Yea- RMS has been doing a lot of good for Trisquel even if he nor the FSF have done much directly as far as promoting it go. Just his speeches about freedom and his talks with people afterwards are a major help.
I have been to quite a few RMS speeches and hosted him once. He definitely tells people about Trisquel. I think it was at the Trenton Computer Festival a few years back that I came to know of Trisquel. It was because of a conversation about gNewSense and the difficulty in using it (especially less technical users) and the even greater difficulty in supporting it (think among the masses) that resulted in ThinkPenguin's involvement with the distribution.
While this isn't much help now I have a lot of confidence about the future. People will get to know the name Trisquel over time even if it isn't well known now. It's one of the few if not only lesser known distributions amongst the list of distributions we support and it is listed under the distribution compatibility section for every product in our catalog. I don't think there is any other distribution other than maybe Ubuntu which is so well mentioned or supported on the site. We also have the largest catalog of hardware for GNU/Linux. One way or another chances are you'll eventually come across ThinkPenguin if your using GNU/Linux. There is still a lot we can do marketing wise although it's getting pretty well known. I tend to be more surprised these days when someone hasn't heard of ThinkPenguin and uses GNU/Linux than not. I think that says a lot.
Trisquel is the best way to get a totally libre desktop at the moment. gNewsense is outdated and Parabola brings in the usual quirks with Arch. Trisquel, being based off of Ubuntu, makes it well rounded with excellent support in the form of PPAs, excellent developer support, and a vibrant community. Now that Trisquel is LTS only, it allows the devs to focus on solid releases every 2 years for desktops and servers.
As I mentioned severel times, imo is the debian base of gnewsense the only advantage compared to trisquel.
Ubuntu is a distro owned by a company which goes its own way and is not very concerned about the freedom of users.
If I consider the last news with MIR....
The only disadvantage of debian is the non-fix release cycle. I could live with this.
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