Tor isn't safe from NSA
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Wouldn't surprise me if the whole Tor network was just one bigass honeypot. With the CIA being behind Silk Road. x)
As I've called people's attention to, in here, before (https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-use-tor-trisquel#comment-26792), it was the US government itself who created the "Tor" network.
(So, it's no surprise - to me, at least - that it's a network that can be hacked by that same US government.)
But, now that you mentioned the "Silk Road" trafficking network... You made me realize something that I had not "connected the dots" about before.
It's the CIA, mostly, who runs the international drug trade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292r5W-nSVU). So, being "Tor" a government-created network and the "Silk Road" a part of that same network... You might be just right about the latter... It's most probably a CIA-created network. :)
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They more or less also started this little thing called The Internet, so u'know.. Maybe spying on everybody was the plan from the very beginning. =O
..Actually, that's been every governments wet dream since time immemorial so who knows..
In fairness, I got that theory from the No Agenda podcast. =p You might get a chuckle or two from it too. =x
http://www.noagendashow.com/
"World Wide Wiretap", is what I've heard that "WWW" stands for, in intelligence circles, from an investigator that has been denouncing this type of covert surveillance for (many) years. (At www.infowars.com.)
And, still today, I wonder about that same thing... (If the Internet, itself, was, right from the start, (also) a big surveillance project...)
Anyway...
Even if it was, it has "backfired"... And, is now more dangerous than beneficial to the establishment. Being that the reason why (the one as we know it, at least) will soon come to an end. (http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=230303#p230303)
Thanks for the link. I'll check it.
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"However, the new version of Tor, 2.4, uses elliptical curve Diffie-Hellman ciphers, which are probably beyond the NSA's reach. "
Just update your tor software.
On 10/09/13 12:57, ewlabonte wrote:
> "However, the new version of Tor, 2.4, uses elliptical curve
> Diffie-Hellman ciphers, which are probably beyond the NSA's reach. "
>
> Just update your tor software.
Tor 2.4 is still in development (I think it is RC status at the moment)
and only ~10% of Tor relays are apparently running 2.4. Which means that
even if you use it, you will probably still be primarily using weak
soon-legacy keys.
Andrew.
The browser bundle for GNU/Linux only offers the 2.3 series as their latest version. Same goes for Windows and Mac bundles. The initial version check in the self loading Firefox has the 2.3 release as the latest.
I guess we are all fucked.
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OK,
If it takes a $1,000,000,000.00 USD to break Tor and the NSA is only spending $250,000,000.00 USD a year how does anybody figure that the NSA has actually broken Tor (at this point)? Maybe I'm just missing something although I suspect all those systems probably cost $250,000,000.00 USD just to run/aquire the hardware/power/etc. Was there additional money put out for the custom IBM chips? Is there actual evidence that these chips exist?
Or is that what they are presuming the new huge NSA data center in Utah is for? That was estimated at about $1,000,000,000.00 US.
In either case it sounds like the NSA does not yet possess the ability to break 90% of Tor. It is something that is to be shortly. Which means there is time (sort of) to fix the problem.
What people are probably missing is that Tor should probably be capable of keeping secret it's users identifies for about 20 years. Short of this and it may be worth cracking for nefarious purposes (persecution, etc).
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