Trisquel GNU/Linux 4.0 "Taranis" Crashes
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Hi everyone,
I'm experiencing crashes with "Taranis", AMD64 version, I have all the updates installed.
Same thing is happening with Ubuntu 10.04 on this same PC.
The system gets completely frozen, I don't have keyboard or mouse, I can't switch from Ctrl+Alt+F1 to Ctrl+Alt+F7, there is no HDD activity, can't do anything at all.
I've made a few changes on the desktop(e.g: wallpaper)
When the system crashes, the screen changes back to the original wallpaper(the one with the flashy colors and black background,the one you get by default when you finish Trisquel's intallation), and right at the center of the screen theres the Trisquel symbol in white(exactly when you do a reboot), but the symbol i static(not blinking), there is no bar at the bottom, no login window, nothing, the screen shows completely frozen.
I was previously using Ubuntu 8.04, everything was fine.
This started to happen when I switched to Ubuntu 10.04.
I decided to give Trisquel 4.0 a try, although it's based apparently on Ubuntu 10.04, the same problem is happening.
I thought that this could be a Hardware problem, but I've already tried again Ubuntu 8.04 and Trisquel 3.5, no crashes are happening.
The crashes usualy occur a couple of hours or so, after I start the PC.
I've tried these options:
- Screensaver is turned off
- GNOME visual effects are set to non(no visual effects)
- I've also switched off some services, including GNOME Power Management
- I read that it could be a problem with X.Org so I tried: http://hackademix.net/2010/05/04/bug-in-ubuntu-1004-crashing-your-desktop-via-firefox-noscript/
- I've also tried under Ubuntu with a Linux RTM Kernel
I've also tried the graphics card, so I've tested it with an ASUS ATI 9520 AGP and a Club3D NVIDIA 6200 AGP, both tested with clean instalations with each of the distros versions mentioned above.
PC is still crashing with Ubuntu 10.04 and Trisquel 4.0.
I've already filed a bug on Launchpad:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/587066
You can check out my log files there
I've also been checking the file system(EXT4), regularly after every crash, no problems so far with fylesystem consistency:
sudo touch /forcefsck
sudo shutdown -rF now
I've also run memtest86+, no errors found while doing memory test, I've left it running for 24 hours.
At present I'm using on my PC:
AMD Sempron 3100+
2 x 1GB DDR 400MHZ (Kingston)
Mainboard: ASUS K8U-X
Ethernet: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100
Soud Card: SB Audigy (CA0106)
HDD: Western Digital 160GB
DVD-ROM: Plextor PX 740A
Logitech Ultra Flat Keyboard
Logitech Tackball Marble
To be honest, I don't know what else to do.
Does anyone had the same problem and solved it?
Am I missing something?
Does anyone have more ideas?
Do you need me to provide more details?
Thank you very much,
Ricardo,
What is the display adapter used in your system?
Hi,
You mean the graphic card I'm using at the moment?
It's a Club 3D Nvidia 6200 256MB AGP.
Cheers,
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> To be honest, I don't know what else to do.
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> Does anyone had the same problem and solved it?
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> Am I missing something?
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> Does anyone have more ideas?
How about try with the 4.0.1 release.
It fixes some several bugs, these changes are also included by
update-amanger installing the latest updates.
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> Do you need me to provide more details?
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> Thank you very much,
>
> Ricardo,
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System crashed again today at 01:08AM.
I've already done all the updates.
Taranis 4.0.1 has been much more stable than Ubuntu 10.04 on this PC.
The last time Taranis crashes was when I made the last post on this forum.
Ubuntu was crashing everyday after a few hours.
The system crashed today while I was watching a DVD.
Hi everyone,
I'm also having another issue at the moment.
After every previous crash, I'd check the log files through GNOME log viewer to try to find any anomalies.
Last night, when I tried to do the same, after I opened the GNOME Log Viewer, now I'm getting the following message on the file /var/log/btmp:
"This file is not a regular file or is not a text file"
Could it be that the file got corrupted because of the crash?
Does anyone know how to fix it so that GNOME Log Viewer doesn't complain anymore?
Thank you very much,
I am a translator!
There seems to be a similar issue in Ubuntu (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/374320). I have tried to open it, both in Trisquel and Ubuntu and it is not allowed -perhaps permissions, but it does not work either with sudo-. In my case it does not seem to be reflected on Gnome Log Viewer.
Hi
I'm sorry that you are having the problems.
The one thing that stands out to me is that it is occurring with both distros.
That leads me to think that possibly it is a hardware problem.
This will probably seem to be a strange idea, but there is a possibility that one of the memory sticks, you have two matched sticks, if I read the post correctly, has a "heating problem". The problem occurs because of a slow, sometimes fast depending on the software being used, buildup of heat in the sticks which can cause them to "delaminate". It is billionths of an inch and not physically observable by the eye.
Usually it is not both sticks but that can happen also.
Unfortunately, the test for this is tedious and laborious and possibly costly with no result.
The best and first way to test this would be to remove one of the sticks, I realize that things would run "slow" but you can check if the system "locks up", then the other stick if nothing.
However, if you see nothing then you are in the situation of the "null hypothesis", trying to test for something that is "not happening".
Given that then the most easy way would be to take the sticks to a computer store that you trust to test them, but if it is a "delamination" situation, that could take hours to appear or it may appear quickly.
The less easy way would be to try to borrow, with a deposit, two memory sticks to try them in the machine.
The least desireable way would be to buy a couple of sticks.
If it appears that one of the sticks is delaminated, one does want to purchase an identical stick for replacement. Unfortunately this might not be easy, so one has to buy two.
But, a friendly second hand store would buy the one that works to defray some of the cost.
Again, don't know if this is the problem but the "locks up after a while" and the two distros is what prompted my comment.
janus
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