Which terminal?
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Until now I never considered, that there are different terminals, and hence what could be one's advantage over the others. The reason this issue came to my mind is (probably) because I am running Cinnamon on Flidas which apparently does not automatic couple up with with Mate-terminal. I have done that automatically and the problem is probably solved.
Still, it made me think: Could there be any advantage in using a different terminal (emulator?), and if so, why?
For one thing, terminal emulators have different interfaces and functionalities and they emulate different hardware. Take XTerm -- it has no tabs by default (if there's a workaround, I'm not aware of it). If you need tabbed functionality, you'd choose something else. Also, I wouldn't install GNOME Terminal in another environment. I'd choose a terminal that has no gnome dependencies.
XTerm is a pretty safe choice anywhere if you need a no-nonsense X-compliant emulator. XTerm's fonts are not pretty, though. I guess it can be customized to one's liking.
http://invisible-island.net/xterm/
EDIT: XTerm has hidden menus. Press Ctrl+M1/M2/M3 (Mx= Mouse button 1-3)
Thanks. I'll try xterm for a while
I already went back to Mate-terminal, since Xterm doesn't (seem to) allow copy and paste...
The workaround is to do that inside the terminal, with a multiplexer such as GNU screen or tmux (although the main use of these programs is to be able to log out and still have your commands running).
"Xterm doesn't (seem to) allow copy and paste..."
Don't be silly. ;-) Of course it does.
shift+M2 or shift+insert
Of course - I should have known it isn't possible that 'they' would make that not possible!
Thanks
There's one inaccuracy in my message above. I cannot edit it any more, so I'll put my correction here.
Xterm copy paste:
1. highlight text somewhere and
2. middle click in Xterm window with your mouse OR
3. (with the keyboard) shift+insert. With the mouse, you don't have to use shift. Just the second mouse button (scroll wheel or middle button).
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please? Thanks.
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You probably have more time to gain by learning Emacs' basic commands (those that in Bash, e.g., C-r, C-b, C-f, M-b, M-f, C-t, M-t, C-k, C-y, C-a, C-e, M-[backspace], etc.) than by choosing another terminal emulator. Notice that, depending on the terminal (it is in particular the case with GNOME Terminal), you may want to deactivate some keyboard shortcuts in the preferences because the conflict with those of the shell.
Thanks. I just need a simple emulator for now. When/if I get more savvy, I'll go for the more advanced ones.
I'd actually recommend Terminator if you're looking for something that's easy to use but also functional. Terminals can be split vertically and horizontally either by key binding or from the right mouse click menu, there's tabs, you can zoom in, etc. You can also customize the appearance a bit from the preferences window. It's very mouse friendly, so you'd be able to ease into keybindings if you aren't used to them.
Here's a screenshot -- XTerm running in Trisquel 8. The fonts can be easily changed into something more eye-pleasing.
I always wondered why there was several terminals in any distro (2 versions of those xterms things, and another one like gnome-terminal for instance).
I guess some have more features while some might only work in specific cases.
XTerm and UXTerm respectively are non-UTF-8 and UTF-8 basic terminal emulators... but they actually are one. UXTerm is a small Shell script (56 actual lines of code) calling 'xterm' after setting up the UTF-8 locale.
What are the consequences, i.e. what is the particular advantage of that?
UTF-8 allows to properly show any character: Arabic, Chinese, symbolic characters, etc. It is an implementation of Unicode, with 128,172 characters in its version 9.0: http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode9.0.0/
So here I go revealing my limited knowledge again: What could you for instance use that for in the terminal?
See comparison between rxvt and XTerm running Elinks (Gnome Terminal and XTerm with true type fonts in the second screenshot). Sometimes it's useful to have unicode support for programs that expect it. Unicode support must be coupled with the right font for all characters to be displayed correctly.
http://czyborra.com/unicode/terminals.html
If we get our terminal to render and input Unicode, all the CUI applications can simply rely on that function provided by their operating environment (terminal) and will only need minor changes. We'd also get a consistent look (font) and feel (input method) imposed on all CUI applications.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
With the UTF-8 encoding, Unicode can be used in a convenient and backwards compatible way in environments that were designed entirely around ASCII, like Unix. UTF-8 is the way in which Unicode is used under Unix, Linux, and similar systems. Make sure that you are well familiar with it and that your software supports UTF-8 smoothly.
According to Wikipedia, XTerm supports UTF-8.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_terminal_emulators
If your files are named with Japanese characters (probably because you are Japanese), you are happy that ls' output is readable. Same thing if you browse the Web in Hebrew (probably because you are Israeli) with Lynx. Etc.
Much less exotic than Kanji characters -- something as mundane as umlauts can ruin your day if your tools are not up to the job.
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