Z**m - totally different behaviour in abrowser@trisquel (X) and firefox@mint (O)
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Much against my will, I too often have to attend web-meetings via zoom.
In abrowser@trisquel I have to permit everything in noscript but in the end I don't get the captcha thing, and hence cannot use zoom.
In firefox@mint (which I use for work) I don't have to changes settings in noscript, and everything works.
What is the underlying difference and is there a practical workaround for getting zoom to work in abrowser@trisquel, which does not compromise privacy further (for instance, I will not install the zoom desktop app).
I would want to check the protection level in "Privacy and Security" in Abrowser's Preferences and compare with the settings on the other browser.
As far as I can see, there are no differences.
If free/libre browser like Abrowser in Trisquel doesn't work with Zoom, then Zoom must rely on certain other non-free feature than JavaScript.
This is interesting: I have set up a spare computer to work with zoom, similar to my work computer: Lenovo bios, Linux Mint, firefox.
Yet, on my work computer I don't need to trust anything in NoScript, while on my spare computer I need to trust everything!
How is that even possible?
I have tried to find documentation about zoom's possible requirement regarding javascriptbut has so far found none.
By the way, on both computers the only addons I have installed in forefox are noscript, httpseveryhwere and ublock origin.
The settings are the same (as far as I have intended and can see).
I successfully installed ungoogled-chromium via Giux. So far it seems that zoom runs way better on that, than on firefox.
While we should never promote non-free software, I hereby wish to promote free software that eases the sometimes necessary subjugation to services run by non-free software.
> promote free software that eases the sometimes necessary subjugation to services run by non-free software.
What do you mean? The purpose of free software is not to make the use of non-free software easier: the purpose of free software is to replace non-free software.
The recent improvements that made it possible to use Jitsi Meet on Abrowser are commendable. The fact that ungoogled-chromium is more friendly towards non-free software is not.
I understand that one does not always have an easy choice. In any case, reading and forwarding this might help students and teachers alike resisting zoom: https://www.gnu.org/education/teachers-help-students-resist-zoom.html
Well, my move to "promote free software that eases the sometimes necessary subjugation to services run by non-free software." should not be misinterpreted into a move to "make the use of non-free software easier". That is an unjust twist.
While the Free Software Movement generally refers to the society and the course of Free Software, I allow my self to interpret 'movement' to also refer to the transition towards using free software exclusively.
I agree with the position that software is either free or not. Still, software collections, e.g. an operating system or an application, which include less non-free software is better than purely non-free software, and such software collections - however imperfect - can be a good step on the way (movement) towards even better solutions.
In the given case, I - and many others - sometimes have to use services run with non-free software (unless we wish to give up our jobs or education, or isolate ourselves from the societal groups that we are at this point a part of). In these cases the move from using non-free software when subjugate ourselves to services run with non-free software to using free software when subjugating ourselves to services run with non-free software is in itself a movement towards free software.
Any move (-ment) towards a wider and more consistent use of free software is a good move. Let us not throw the baby out with the bath water.
I am a translator!
I tried myself to install Jitsi on a cheap VPS, it works with a few people but I have no clue with how many people it can work. Besides, what I need is a yearly meeting with up to 50 non-tech people, I don't have a clue how things can scale with that number of people, I don't have the necessary experience and that meeting needs to work no matter what, I can't afford making a try to see it does not work.
Are you aware of a company that could provide that kind of service for people in France? (whether using Jitsi or something else)
BigBlueButton looks more appropriate: https://bigbluebutton.org
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