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I just finished reading the IRC log of the 1st meeting, I'm glad someone posted it here although I didn't catch it in time. Was it decided that the next meeting would be the 25h at 17:00 UTC?
:( I think I might have to get on the dev mailing list. Anyway- if we can clarify that I'll be at the next meeting. Though I'd like to see it pushed an hour or two later. 17:00 UTC is extremely hard for me to make and I would like to be at these meetings.
Looked like an interesting meeting. :)
Regarding time: I might be able to make 19:00 (5am) since I sometimes get up early. 18:30 perhaps, but not any earlier.
Next meeting if I'm in I will bring up the wiki issue. The main reason why I don't contribute to the wiki as much as I'd like to is the lack of revision info. That's useful for tracking what articles are added. At the moment the wiki's a mess, because new articles aren't added to the index pages.
I haven't use Drupal 6 much but I know Drupal 7 definitely has revisions (so maybe 6 does as well) - I recall revisions being a built-in permission.
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I believe this is correct. We are current on 6 if I'm not mistaken and the wiki we use anyway supports revisions.
The revision authors are listed at the bottom of the page, but no revision information (i.e. a diff between revisions). That would be helpful because wiki pages have to be linked from the alphabetical list of manuals [1] and the relevant sections in the documentation [2] which some users don't know.
There are other reasons for revisions as well, like tracking changes and verifying other people's work.
[1]: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/alphabetical-list-manuals
[2]: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/manuals
Also, translators might find a "Recent Changes" and history/revision info for each page useful. Otherwise changes might become hard to track for translators.
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good minutes here: http://openetherpad.org/trisqueldevel
can i suggest open new thread for each conversation/meeting?
as per reaching out: can we suggest ruben to go to freeasinfreedom faif podcast? or floss weekly or linux outlaws or any other?
webcasts
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> :) I don't see why not. Just post a new thread.
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Ok, let's do that in future... Next thursday i guess.
By the way, I do think fsf promote trisquel. In fact i think i found out about trisquel in part because it is the defaulf distro they recomend and it is the one they use as hand outs in their promotional activities.
Chris, would you like to talk in a web cast for example and promote your company and trisquel by extension? I do not mind contacting them in your behalf.
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> Whom?
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i would say FLOSS weekly, free as in freedom and Linux outlaws in that order.
Have you listened to any?
I am interested to make deb packages of games that are outdated in the repos or does not exist in repos at all.
Like UFO: Alien Invasion, Speed Dreams, TripleA, and World of Padman.
I believe you had better contribute to Debian. It will then flow to Ubuntu and then Trisquel.
On 12-12-23 11:31 AM, name at domain wrote:
> I am interested to make deb packages of games that are outdated in the
> repos or does not exist in repos at all.
>
> Like UFO: Alien Invasion, Speed Dreams, TripleA, and World of Padman.
If you target only Debian initially (and make it), it will take a rather
long time to get to Trisquel users in the main repository.
If you are targetting Trisquel 6, making packages available for Ubuntu
12.04 LTS following any of the existing guides will get you started.
Maybe we could have a packaging guide for Trisquel that would help put
together such packages, based on Ubuntu guides. I've never done
packaging but here is something to get started.
There is this packaging guide, published under the Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
This new guide based on it has been very actively developed lately:
http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
The license should also be the same as the above, although it's not
clearly stated other than the project page. I filed a bug for that:
http://pad.lv/1093447
I'd prefer following the second guide, you will end up with packages
that are not in the repositories yet but can be cited in needs-packaging
and RFP bug reports for Ubuntu and Debian, respectively, which will get
better chances of being integrated into Debian and Ubuntu sooner, while
being available immediately to anyone willing to install them manually.
In other words, make packages available directly ASAP, while following
due dilligence to make them available in Debian and Ubuntu.
If there is a more efficient, "reaches-many-users" way, I'd love to hear
about it.
Cheers,
F.
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Fabián Rodríguez
http://fsf.magicfab.ca
Thanks of the suggestions and links. Will begin to work on it.
I try packaging TripleA at first, and after that I should be able to make a first revised version for Trisquel of either of those packaging guides.
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If you figure it out document it and add it to the wiki. The more details the better. Then we can point others to it on how to get started. There are lots of people here would like to learn this stuff although need to be walked through the process. Most of the people who know how or could at least figure it out are already very busy so.. it is much appreciated.
Just a quick update on packaging.
The links above contain very interesting reading, but are mainly appropriate for developing Ubuntu and derivates of it using tools Ubuntu provides like launchpad etc. However, PPAs are quite excellent way to provide additional or alternative packages for Trisquel.
That said, first one needs to learn howto make deb packages. The following links give information how to get started.
A short guide
http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging
A long guide
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
There is tons of stuff to read, but it is all good reading and stuff to learn.
I will keep working on packaging and documenting it, time permitting, since it is something I definetly want to learn.
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Great to see that things are getting sorted out.
One thing we should discuss in one of the next meetings is the future of the Desktop Environment. gnome-panel has become unmaintained, and we need to decide whether to maintain in on our own, or to switch to something different.
At least we got a good alternative that already exists in form of trisquel mini.
Aside from the spam at the end of this thread, the minutes were a great read! I look forward to pitching in next round.
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Did you only read the ones from 12/18/2012? I think there have been additional meetings although I didn't spot the IRC notes.
Not sure what is happening. I'd like to be informed and even attend the IRC meetings if I can figure out when they are.
Instead of spamming You could also take a look at https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-help and see how You can help?
(EDIT -- I totally missed the point of Moilani's post. Sorry!!!!!)
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