YouTube Large Screen Choppy and slow...

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Ultimate Powers
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A rejoint: 03/13/2013

Oh no... I really hope this is all in English! Entering this post is written in Spanish.

Well, I am running the live version and wondering if this distro is really worth installing. I have Mint KDE right, but always on the look out for a better OS for myself. This one immediately looks nice, but I prefer KDE. Much more customization with KDE and more power over the entire system.

If I were to install this... would the full screen youtube videos not be choppy and slow?

Also, I'm wondering if there is an option for KDE de while boot up is taking place?

Horgeon
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A rejoint: 03/29/2011

Are you using Gnash or HTML5?

HTML5 is not as bad as Gnash but certainly not perfect either. Enable it at youtube.com/html5.

Here are other suggestions to make it play not using flash: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/play-videos-without-using-flash

AndrewT

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A rejoint: 12/28/2009

My preferred fix for the Gnash-related choppiness you are experiencing:

Step 1: Install Greasemonkey add-on for the browser
Step 2: Go to greasespot.com and get the ViewTube script
Step 3: Instant "Just Works" on YouTube and many other video sites.

Horgeon
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A rejoint: 03/29/2011

It is userscripts.org

Direct link: https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/87011

AndrewT

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A rejoint: 12/28/2009

Bit thanks for the correction!

GustavoCM

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A rejoint: 11/20/2012

You can choose KDE-and-not-GNOME when installing from a net-install ISO (I believe the option is named "triskel", with a 'k' instead of 'qu'), or you can install it later (by "apt-get install kde-standard", I think). In the last case, when installing kdm, you will be asked which Display Manager you want to use.

Chris

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A rejoint: 04/23/2011

The reason you would go with Trisquel over Linux Mint is that Trisquel is completely free. The more people who use free distribution, promote freedom, contribute financially, etc the easier GNU/Linux gets. Non-free pieces like flash are nice but using them puts the community at the mercy of Adobe and others. It's better to hold out and work on fixing the problems that surround it. Email those sites requiring it, use other sites that don't, etc.

It is easier to just use Linux Mint... but it isn't in any GNU/Linux users best interest. In fact it isn't in non-GNU/Linux users interests either. Ultimately everybody is at the mercy of these companies and the only way to fix it is to stop giving in. GNU/Linux users in general are extremely vulnerable.

If it doesn't work you can still consider contributing to free software development and avoid non-free pieces where possible. There is for example the option of not purchasing hardware dependent on non-free drivers/firmware. That has its own technical benefits anyway. But there are other things you can do like not install or use Adobe Flash. The fewer people who have it installed the more critical it becomes for companies to comply with free web standards.

There are numerous groups which could use the money:

Trisquel for one; it may not work for you now, but with more funding and time it could tomorrow. You can donate to Trisquel, become an associate member, etc.

Donate:

https://trisquel.info/en/donate

Become an associate member:

http://trisquel.info/en/member

The Free Software Foundation; an organization that promotes free software.

Associate membership:

http://www.fsf.org/associate/

Donate:

https://my.fsf.org/donate

Trisquel/FSF also have gift shops:

https://trisquel.info/en/store

http://shop.fsf.org/

You can also donate 25% of the profits to Trisquel by buying hardware from ThinkPenguin:

libre.thinkpenguin.com (I'm the founder & CEO)

As others have pointed out you can install KDE from the repository. It isn't the bug fixed optimized environment Trisquel ships with although it should generally work.

Ultimate Powers
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A rejoint: 03/13/2013

Wow... holy molies! Thanks to all for all the replies!! I write a post on Mint's board and I would maybe get one or two respones over a few days. This is unbelievable!

Ok... well, I will try some of these suggestions.

To respond to what I am using to view YouTube videos... I'm not sure. Whatever is installed by default. As stated, I am running the live DVD right now just trying this out to see if it will be to my liking and fill my needs.

Do you guys know about the KDE version and how to run it? Does it come with KDE on the disk and will install that de if I so choose?

Thanks again!!

Horgeon
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A rejoint: 03/29/2011

The default, where you have a button "Click to play" is Gnash, the reverse-engineered Flash. As any reverse-engineered project it is not on par with the original software. It is kept as default for the following reasons (or at least make sense as being reasons):

Youtube uses it by default, HTML5 is experimental and you need a browser cookie to enable it.
Many sites do not support HTML5 video yet.
3rd party plugins work as expected but they are 'workaround', they don't give the same user experience (for example, youtube captions do not work).

Ultimate Powers
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A rejoint: 03/13/2013

Oh I just read GustavoCM's response to KDE... Thanks!

Ultimate Powers
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A rejoint: 03/13/2013

Horgeon, I don't get what I'm suppose to install for the script. I installed greasemonkey and nothing changed.

Is it scriptish that I need to install by going to https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/87011? Cause I did and it also did not eliminate the choppiness in fullscreen view.

Horgeon
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A rejoint: 03/29/2011

Greasemonkey is an addon which allows you to run custom javascript in your browser. It does just that.

To enable the ViewTube script you go to that website and click on install. After that, you could go to youtube and you will be presented a screen similar to the one on that screenshot on the page: http://ompldr.org/vZDB0Mg

It may be choppy if you try to play the video via HTML5. It works fine if you play it in MP4/MPEG which basically calls the Totem player inside the window.

linuxbookpro
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A rejoint: 03/18/2012

Take the embed code from most YouTube videos, open gedit and save the document as html file then open it in your browser.

If you don't have Gnash enabled it will default to html5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsJKP3_wUgU

Ultimate Powers
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A rejoint: 03/13/2013

Horgeon, I installed scriptish as I see no other option on that page. I do not have those options within the player even after the two installs. No idea what's wrong.

onpon4
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A rejoint: 05/30/2012

Scriptish isn't needed. The script works with either Greasemonkey or Scriptish. Once you have Greasemonkey installed (you need to restart the browser for it to take effect), you can install the script in https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/87011 by clicking Install in the top-right corner. I don't know if it's any different for Scriptish, because I use Greasemonkey, but I assume it's the same.

Ultimate Powers
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A rejoint: 03/13/2013

I just noticed that when you open the system settings, there is no way to close it! What??

onpon4
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A rejoint: 05/30/2012

Did you get that weird thing where the title bar disappears? That's happened to me a couple of times. I have no idea why. In any case, it's pretty rare, so it's more weird than problematic.

Dave_Hunt

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A rejoint: 09/19/2011

Close system settings with 'alt+f4', like any other application window.

icarolongo
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A rejoint: 03/26/2011

See this post from the forum.

Or you can disable Gnash in Abrowser > Addons(Ctrl+Shift+A). After click in Plugins at left side. Disable "Shockwave Flash" (this is the gnash-plugin not flash).

icarolongo
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A rejoint: 03/26/2011

The problem with window probably is Compiz. You can change for Metacity (default in GNOME Fallback) in the System Settings or install gnome-shell and use mutter instead.

For install KDE version from Trisquel is very simple:

In Terminal(Ctrl+Alt+T):

sudo apt-get install triskel

After you log out and choose KDE in login screen (GDM or KDM).

For GNOME Shell:

sudo apt-get install gnome-session

Or try this:

sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
akirashinigami

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What is the difference between gnome-session and gnome-shell?

onpon4
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A rejoint: 05/30/2012

He's actually a bit off; you need both.

gnome-session gives the regular GNOME session as a choice (which gives you access to GNOME Shell). gnome-shell gives you GNOME Shell itself. I don't know if they fixed the problem where they collided by default, but if not, you can fix that by using this PPA:

http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/gnome_3